All Blacks 2023
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Rancid-Schnitzel nicely put. He started showing this in 2019 for the Hurricanes, I remember the Canes had a backline geared for running rugby and all Beauden did was kick, kick, kick. Then he took that same mentality onto the Blues and he's been doing it ever since. Maybe lost his confidence somewhere along the line but from seasons 2015-2017 he was notably one of the best runners of the rugby ball going around.
He was absolutely phenomenal then, but it's almost as if a switch was flicked. He never really went back to playing that way. The speed and skills were still there, but it seems his mindset or instincts completely changed.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
It looks like Frizzell, Jordie Barrett and Lomax are all still broken. Will any of them be available for Italy? Are they all going to be available for the Quarter Final (if the ABs get there)?
Jordie yes, they're being cautious. Not sure about the official word about the other two
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
It looks like Frizzell, Jordie Barrett and Lomax are all still broken. Will any of them be available for Italy? Are they all going to be available for the Quarter Final (if the ABs get there)?
Jordie yes, they're being cautious. Not sure about the official word about the other two
Just chuck them in a quarter final with massive pressure. What could go wrong ?
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Jordie is about 6 foot 6, that is a lot of frame his knees are bearing..I'm concerned.
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we should stop stressing....i cant see any problem going into knock out games with players like bb and savea having played every test this year and 4 other blokes coming back from injury
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Jordie is about 6 foot 6, that is a lot of frame his knees are bearing..I'm concerned.
I think a knee injury is a knee injury no matter what
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
we should stop stressing....i cant see any problem going into knock out games with players like bb and savea having playered every test this year and 4 other blokes coming back from injury
Even if that doesn’t work out impact subs like Christie and Havili will come on and change the tide in our favour
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Jordie is about 6 foot 6, that is a lot of frame his knees are bearing..I'm concerned.
I think a knee injury is a knee injury no matter what
I think it is quite a serious injury and our cupboard at 12 is um...not great.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Jordie is about 6 foot 6, that is a lot of frame his knees are bearing..I'm concerned.
I think a knee injury is a knee injury no matter what
I think it is quite a serious injury and our cupboard at 12 is um...not great.
Yeah that’s my point. five foot six or seven foot six…..does it matter ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
we should stop stressing....i cant see any problem going into knock out games with players like bb and savea having playered every test this year and 4 other blokes coming back from injury
Even if that doesn’t work out impact subs like Christie and Havili will come on and change the tide in our favour
even better
just realised ive been saying 4 guys being BBBR, Frizell, Lomax and JB....didn't even think about Cane
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how often has the BB at 15 and RM at 10 combo worked? I recall one game I think it went well, just trying to remember the others. If it is a winning tactic, it should be established by now given how long they have played there?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Rancid-Schnitzel nicely put. He started showing this in 2019 for the Hurricanes, I remember the Canes had a backline geared for running rugby and all Beauden did was kick, kick, kick. Then he took that same mentality onto the Blues and he's been doing it ever since. Maybe lost his confidence somewhere along the line but from seasons 2015-2017 he was notably one of the best runners of the rugby ball going around.
Was the rush defence as prevalent in 2015-2017?
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@pakman the rush defense was definitely a thing because that's pretty much how the Canes won their 2016 title. Lead by Cory Jane and Matt Proctor the Canes came up with a rush defense structure that didn't concede a try through the playoffs.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2023:
Mounga handled the ball a lot at the back as he dropped back when Barrett went to first receiver
Would that perhaps suggest Barrett was at "first defender" if Mounga was receiving the ball at the back? i.e., they had the ball and were kicking it?
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@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
DMac and Roigard
It's got to the point where we need to make use of these guys.
This place is going to get super grim if we go down without a fight.We are three weeks away from "4 more years boys".
Either Foster or some strong figures within the group (if there are any) need to grab a hold of this. Like you say I fear we will all be left wondering what could have been...
We don't have a 2015 vintage available but there are plenty of players knocking around who are/could have been useful. The initial 33 was poorly selected and furthermore he is not even selecting correctly from the 33 he himself picked.
Id have Heem, Levi Aumua, RTS over ALB and Havili. He has had 4 years to find someone to carry the ball at 12. It took 2.5 of those for him to pick Jordie.
Aumua isn't eligible yet is he? And RTS has only recently been found to be a good fullback (over 12) and was tried at 12 so I can't blame Foster over those two.
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Amua is available he is NZ born and has not played for anyone else.
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thanks was not sure.
