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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life
    Compares similar to Frizzell
    Frizzell 108kg
    Blackadder 111kg
    Frizzell 6ft 5 in the old measurement
    Blackadder 6ft 3

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    Pretty cool story

    Sep 2, 2023  /  Sport

    Rugby World Cup: Tamaiti Williams discovers WWI relative in France

    Rugby World Cup: Tamaiti Williams discovers WWI relative in France

    The All Blacks have a tradition of visiting World War I graves whenever they are on French soil, and last week was no different.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life
    Compares similar to Frizzell
    Frizzell 108kg
    Blackadder 111kg
    Frizzell 6ft 5 in the old measurement
    Blackadder 6ft 3

    Adam Thompson was 110kgs too - active as hell around the park.

    Never shifted a single body at a ruck though

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to voodoo on last edited by
    #2556

    @voodoo

    Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    MiketheSnow
    replied to voodoo on last edited by
    #2557

    @voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life
    Compares similar to Frizzell
    Frizzell 108kg
    Blackadder 111kg
    Frizzell 6ft 5 in the old measurement
    Blackadder 6ft 3

    Adam Thompson was 110kgs too - active as hell around the park.

    Never shifted a single body at a ruck though

    Won plenty of turnovers though

    That would be handy right about now

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #2558

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @voodoo

    Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

    Turbos ain't Le Bleus.

    Both sides are better than Auckland mind you.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #2559

    @KiwiMurph
    Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @KiwiMurph
    Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

    I agree. I do think he gets talked about like he's some world class test star though, when, mostly due to injury, we just don't know as he hasn't played enough in big tests

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  • voodooV Away
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @voodoo

    Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

    Good to hear

    Tbh I haven’t seen enough of him against decent opposition to really make a call - but the times I have seen him, he’s been super busy, no care for his body sort of stuff. But just not folding people or bending defensive lines like I really want our 6 to do.

    The only point I was making with Thompson was just that height and weight are not necessarily good predictors of impact

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Chris
    #2562

    @voodoo
    I would like see him get an extended Run at 6 or 7 to see what he can bring.
    When he did start we were in a shit form slump and a bit confused in what we were trying to achieve
    I like his physical no fear approach.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph

    I would like to see him get some regular game time to see what he can bring.
    He gives 100% and I like that.

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    #2564

    We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
    Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
    Disclaimer: beer.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

    We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
    Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
    Disclaimer: beer.

    You mean another one?

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  • TimT Away
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    #2566

    Papalii was excellent at test level in 2021 and 2022. Despite irregular minutes in 2023 he has been very good, and clearly better than Cane.

    The stupid recency bias has the dumber posters basing their opinion of him on 2023 Super Rugby.

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  • TimT Away
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    #2567

    In the head to head game in Hamilton, Papalii had a huge game, and the Blues dominated possession and territory in the 2nd half. They also played the dumbest rugby that I have ever seen, and Beauden Barrett kicked the ball away so much that it should have been made a capital crime in the NZ criminal code. Christ, the number of penalties in the 22 they took as scrums.

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    #2568

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    Kiwiwomble
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

    @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

    Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

    Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

    Judge the jersey this weekend.

    but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

    @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

    Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

    Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

    Judge the jersey this weekend.

    but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

    That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @Machpants i dont know how to respond...we've seen the fern pattern on the jersey during RC games and had this discussion on the forum before, consensus being up close still obvious but cant really see it at any distance......

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    replied to reprobate on last edited by
    #2572

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

    We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
    Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
    Disclaimer: beer.

    Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

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