All Blacks 2023
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
@voodoo Top four teams in that pool are all ranked very closely, that's probably not a good pool of death. But it will be hard to call
Pool of Lost Time Injury?
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble Why would you feel embarrassed by something that didn't happen (head contact)?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble Why would you feel embarressed by something that didn't happen (head contact)?
because no matter how some try to sugar coat this
he dived pointed shoulder first at a player on the ground away from teh ball (it was in no way a "clean out") and it was good luck not good management that meant he missed the head. He still hit the base of the neck which is still dangerous and shitty.
These two points are not incompatible.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
I think i this is very relevant
(Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.
France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.
(ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds
'New Zealand have a deeply ingrained knack of losing their discipline'
If the All Blacks are losing the physical battle, they lose their discipline too.
Two words; absorbing tackle.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
I think i this is very relevant
(Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.
France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.
(ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds
'New Zealand have a deeply ingrained knack of losing their discipline'
If the All Blacks are losing the physical battle, they lose their discipline too.
So Ireland control World Rugby?
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:
I think i this is very relevant
(Ireland) in their last 23 Tests, stretching back to June 2021, they have picked up just two yellow cards.
France, who throughout 2021 and 2022 were vying with Ireland for that top spot, were almost as well disciplined, being shown one yellow and one red over that period.
(ABs) Between 2020 and 2022 they played 35 Tests and were shown 16 yellows and three reds
'New Zealand have a deeply ingrained knack of losing their discipline'
If the All Blacks are losing the physical battle, they lose their discipline too.
So Ireland control World Rugby?
Lotsa Guinness in Dublin
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@Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.
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@chimoaus and wasnt there a period where we were happy to play without the ball pressuring with our defence and then using our counter attack, now our defence isnt the weapon it used to be, and our counter attack isnt either.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants I wonder how Australia ranks, I have a feeling they are as bad or worse than us. I don't have the stats but I assume teams that struggle get more cards due to defending more. Not sure.
As to cards I don't think they were worse than us, but similar. However they are also shit when NOT getting cards
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
So, who plays six against France, with Frizell injured? Barrett, Vaa'i, Jacobson, Papalii, or Cane?
Do we need a poll?
First two needed to cover lock. LJ wasn't effective against Boks, so Paps is last man standing?
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Barrett is an 80 minute player when he isn't getting carded, so if BBBR is fit then BBBR and SW at lock, SB at 6
If there's a need to sub one of BBBR or SW then SB goes to lock and Vaa'i or Paps to 6
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@nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
Jordie was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum.
Fozzie: NOT THAT BARRETT, THE OTHER ONE
Beauden was auditioning for the role by packing on the side of the scrum -"Ok but do I have to get my shorts dirty?"
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66% of our red cards in the last 5 years apparently
