All Blacks 2023
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2023:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
If you ask a Saffer why they rated Reado so highly, it wasn't because of his hard shoulders! There needs to be some variety.
But he did have hard shoulders. Friggen smashed people at times.
You completely missed the point. Hard shoulders are a dime a dozen in in SA. It was Reado’s passing and linking which set him apart.
Nah, got that. Was just pointing out his especially "hard shoulders"
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@Stargazer I don’t really understand the question , now it’s pretty obvious.
The future with retirements , injuries , exodus of players , who knows ?
My point is , plenty of players have missed selection and gone on to have good international careers, it’s not like he is old . Next World Cup he will be 28 .
Kaino , nonu , ardie, ben smith a few examples of players missing selections early that went ok later .
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:
Hoskins is only 24 with an exceptional skill set ,
He is young enough to come back from this , it’s all up to him and how much he wants it
He could do a lot worse than to ask Reado for some mentoring. Counties mafia?
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Reado a shining example of a player told to move to another position who did alright? Or was he an 8 before he was a 6 before he was an 8?
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@KiwiMurph midfield stocks looking thinner.
ALB out for 3 weeks surely?
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@KiwiMurph Jordie, Rieko, Ennor with Fainga'anuku as cover seems enough for that first test?
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@KiwiMurph Jordie, Rieko, Ennor with Fainga'anuku as cover seems enough for that first test?
They may want to leave some players behind with the Boks up next only 6 days later.
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Praying that Foster does 2 things this year.
- Picks on form That means play Telea, Leicester F, Narawa, Jordan 15, Scott Barrett, Richie M in big games
- Sam Whitelock and or Scooter captains
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:
Praying that Foster does 2 things this year.
- Picks on form That means play Telea, Leicester F, Narawa, Jordan 15, Scott Barrett, Richie M in big games
- Sam Whitelock and or Scooter captains
You might need to pray for 40 days and 40 nights before number 2 ever happens…
Cane will be captain this year.
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I know. Does that mean Paps doesn't get a look in this year
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:
I know. Does that mean Paps doesn't get a look in this year
Well if picking on form, Cane will be starting surely. He has consistently been the best 7 in NZ teams this year.
Though every chance Paps will get a start against Pumas, would not be surprised if a good number of players from final are not given the travel to Argentina. I would think leaving a few at home makes sense. I suspect that a front row of the likes of De Groot, Coles and Lomax will start, Laulala and Ofa will go, not sure about locks, but Paps, Frizell and Ardie in loose? Smith, ?, JB,Reiko and whoever in back 3maybe the spine of team that travels.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@KiwiMurph Jordie, Rieko, Ennor with Fainga'anuku as cover seems enough for that first test?
That is only one 2nd five. Mix is a bit off without ALB.
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@Tordah said in All Blacks 2023:
So with the short turnaround between the Arg and the Bok game, does this increase Shaun Stevenson's chances of getting capped?
I really hope so! Would love to see both Jordan and SS in the back three together.
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@Tordah said in All Blacks 2023:
So with the short turnaround between the Arg and the Bok game, does this increase Shaun Stevenson's chances of getting capped?
From what's been said, the door isn't just open for SS, but Foster is holding it open for him. Provided he doesn't do anything dumb in camp, I'd be surprised if he isn't capped and in the RWC Squad.
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Telea will be out for a few games by the sound of it. Stevenson was really good under highball last night and his exits were quite impressive, he is quite a big boy as well. Felt like he had the better of Will Jordan, wouldn't surprise me if the stats confirm that as well.
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Goodhue will surely be called in as cover. Ioane, Ennor and if you really want to add him in, Fainga'anuku are all out and out centres. Goodhue has played plenty of 12, so he is needed. Interestingly, the NZ XV have also picked three centres + Goodhue, so I wonder whether Sam Gilbert is being viewed as a genuine 12 option there. If the ABs are looking for a goal kicker, he can do the trick!
