All Blacks 2023
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
Aside from the 2015 hangover players, are there any in teh 23 at the moment that you think will end up in the AB ATG conversation? Probably not. It took better teams than this to win it, but better teams than this have also lost it.
Some way to go, because it's early days for most of them.
Samisoni and My boy Will are possibilities. Maybe even Rieko in another cycle. Who knows what we'll be saying about our props 10 years from now.
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Sami is definitely one.
Reiko would have to go on an amazing trot to be held in the same reverence as Smith, Bunce and Robertson (just look at this thread, every 2nd poster still tries to call him a winger)
Will Jordan? Almost all great AB wingers are instant hits and then fade. Will will need to buck that trend."early days for most of them"
Just on this. The front rowers yes.
The locks are old as shit. SBarrett is nearly 30
Cane is at the end. Savea is nearly 30
Smith is already the GOAT.
Mo'unga is done with NZ rugby
JBarrett have probably one world cup cycle left in them
BBarrett is done.
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@mariner4life Without really disagreeing - Bunce was who I was thinking of in terms of Rieko. I doubt Frank had even started when he was Reiko's age - and RI has a very nice body of work on the wing, already.
Will's still scoring test tries as fast as anyone else ever has (might be second to Joe Rok now) - and next year I'm expecting he'll be our fullback.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:
Ideally with Will Jordan he follows the path of Ben Smith whose test career didn't really take off until his mid 20s in 2012. Will Jordan is 25.
Ideally no he doesn't - instead let us hope he gets picked regularly and in his best position!
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@Crucial with JB being the preferred 12, who's the other form 12s, who as an added bonus cover other positions in the squad like DH did?
If they see ALB as 12/13 and are comfortable with is his durablity since he's had injury issues recently, perhaps the backup to RI is the risk point to cover in the squad?
LF is off overseas so a waste of time, Ennor is a bit shit. Fern favourite Umanga-Jenson is always injured, so who's the next 13?
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@Kirwan surely Proctor is next cab off the rank at 13?
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@taniwharugby has good pace, so wouldn't change how we play with RI there.
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@Stargazer was slow/medium pace before his injury. So , along with ALB, has question marks about his durability and now even slower than his peak. So changes were we attack.
I think his time has passed, and time to try someone new.
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@KiwiMurph I'd take Proctor aswell, he's shown consistency in performance and has played very well for a while now (both NPC and Super).
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another vote for Proctor, he always seems to look to get outside his man which could really unlock someone like Clarke
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
.....Ennor get another chance?
seriously?
It was a question not a proposal.
Ennor is the backline equivalent of Brad Shields
