Six Nations 2023
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@ARHS Yep no real surprises on results, that Irish team is so bloody good, and Scotland I think while not going to win it will push for 3rd place (unless Ireland lose Sexton to injury, then 2nd spot maybe open). That's not saying they one man team by any means, but he certainly sets their game plan.
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Youtube's 'Two Cents Rugby' has a front page headline article and a regular gig with Rugby Planet- good on him -
"Two Cents Rugby picks five of the standout players of the round and it’s a healthy mix of forwards and backs.
The YouTube star is joining us throughout the Championship and kicks off with his Round One selection."
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An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Six Nations 2023:
An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
Went straight to Wales
Any list that contains Faletau as foreign is drivel
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They only said foreign born which is correct. The salient point for most of these "born here, play there" guys is where they learned their rugby, where they were brought up in effect. Faletau is as Welsh as anyone on that basis.
Looking at the Wales list you have four blatant poaches in Roberts, Francis, Tompkins and Cuthbert - all born there, played there and then jumped ship.
However, you can keep Cuthbert
Edit: I see Scotland have 20, bloody 20 in that category including 14 that have played representative rugby elsewhere. Sheesh!
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@MiketheSnow said in Six Nations 2023:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Six Nations 2023:
An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
Went straight to Wales
Any list that contains Faletau as foreign is drivel
It does say both born AND produced then clearly shows what is what.
Without looking closely at every "born and produced in one UK country but playing for another" to ascertain their exact story (it's not like there are hard borders) and therefore removing them and focussing on the born and produced in clearly other countries, then the numbers are more like
Scotland - 8
Ireland- 7
Wales - 1
Italy - 5
England - 1
France -2The only country that has clear signs of a poaching system to target players from other countries is Ireland IMO.
Scotland also draw on "heritage" players, a lot -
@Duluth said in Six Nations 2023:
Personally I'm not a fan of the grandparent eligibility. It's not enough of a link in my opinion
Scotland - 8
Wales - 3
Ireland - 2
Italy -2
England - 1
France - 0Agree. We jokingly had this conversation with one of the kids the other day that there were options to play for three countries. Apart from knowing that grandparents came from overseas they have zero attachment to that country culturally, financially or physically.
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@Crucial I personally don't really agree with parent rule, I believe where you were born, or where you reside. Only you yourself should influence your eligibility!
With Granparent rule there is a possibilty of eligibilty of 7 countries that you may not have ever been to! My kids nor I ever had the problem if we were good enough anyway as all parents and grandparents were kiwi born and raised, and I think in my case even my parents were in same boat! Kiwi as I,m afraid! -
Some of the lads on Mrs Cato’s side of the family have played international rugby for Malta based on the grandparent rule.
Also Mrs Cato has put in for a Maltese passport to enjoy the personal benefits of being a member of the EU.
After voting leave in 2016… 🙄
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The crazy thing about the grandparent eligibility is that in many cases those grandparents themselves emigrated as youngsters.
There is also the way that the rules are pretty much one-way traffic dragging new world players back to 'old' countries.
The craziness that is UK eligibility is a separate thing. Someone born in Berwick upon Tweed or Chester or the Wye Valley for example are virtually two country eligible from the start. Mum only had to pop over the river, over the road or off to a pub to find Dad and bang, there you go. -
@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2023:
Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.
That's because it is unclear who is your parent and who is your grandparent.
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@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2023:
Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.
I didn't know that. If your grandmother is born there, does that still count?
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@Catogrande said in Six Nations 2023:
Yep and if you’re born on one of the Channel Islands you are eligible for any of the four countries.
Budge Pountney had a grandparent from the Channel Islands so was eligible for all four nations
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@Duluth said in Six Nations 2023:
Personally I'm not a fan of the grandparent eligibility. It's not enough of a link in my opinion
There must be a fair few PIs eligible based on grandparent rule at the moment and it will only increase in the next decade. We're going to get to the situation in the future where a number of PI rep players kids aren't eligible for that PI.