All Blacks vs Scotland
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@voodoo I'm starting to think Clarke is the Toeava of the 20's.
So much potential and glimpses of it, but the top two inches getting in the way. Needs to learn how to think at the same time as moving.
Edit to add: I had a lot of time for Toeava, but the ABs were shit hot then. They're not now and I don't have the patience for Clarke.
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Clarke is so bizarre. The defensive mistakes are annoying. But his ability to not beat someone is the oddest thing.
Its like he's forgotten how many guys he's (presumably) run around or over at lower levels. That break after the chip and ALB regather, was classic Clarke. He's full steam until someone gets in his vision, then his stutter step comes out and he loses all pace.
It's one thing to be hungus and have no vision, but he doesn't even have that - he doesn't back his pace, his step, or his power - he just stutter steps into limp contact!
Its really weird.
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@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Clarke is so bizarre. The defensive mistakes are annoying. But his ability to not beat someone is the oddest thing.
Its like he's forgotten how many guys he's (presumably) run around or over at lower levels. That break after the chip and ALB regather, was classic Clarke. He's full steam until someone gets in his vision, then his stutter step comes out and he loses all pace.
It's one thing to be hungus and have no vision, but he doesn't even have that - he doesn't back his pace, his step, or his power - he just stutter steps into limp contact!
Its really weird.
He just seems panicked in everything to me, it's like someone presses a button before he goes on the field that only allows one word in his head at a time.
"run run run run run step fend shit" fallover
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Clarke is so bizarre. The defensive mistakes are annoying. But his ability to not beat someone is the oddest thing.
Its like he's forgotten how many guys he's (presumably) run around or over at lower levels. That break after the chip and ALB regather, was classic Clarke. He's full steam until someone gets in his vision, then his stutter step comes out and he loses all pace.
It's one thing to be hungus and have no vision, but he doesn't even have that - he doesn't back his pace, his step, or his power - he just stutter steps into limp contact!
Its really weird.
He just seems panicked in everything to me, it's like someone presses a button before he goes on the field that only allows one word in his head at a time.
"run run run run run step fend shit" fallover
Some guys look like they have time, others look rushed. As flustered as Clarke looked, Telea seemed very composed
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@booboo Hate? Weird word to use. I think many of us are just flabbergasted that a bloke that looks to be so talented just doesn't kick on as expected, despite getting all the opportunities (many more opportunities than some others). Expressing surprise & disappointment is pretty reasonable, isn't it?
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo Hate? Weird word to use. I think many of us are just flabbergasted that a bloke that looks to be so talented just doesn't kick on as expected, despite getting all the opportunities (many more opportunities than some others). Surprise & disappointment is pretty reasonable, isn't it?
As mentioned, I'll have to look harder.
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Clarke seems to be following the Bridge trajectory. Doesn't pin his ears back, lost the ability to beat a man, looks for the contact...
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@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
But his ability to not beat someone is the oddest thing.
The oddest thing for me is he never seems to put the hammer down when he's made a break. Almost as if he's saying to himself "what do I do now?"
Confidence thing? Can it be ironed out?
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Caleb Clarke is 23. Still becoming his best.
He's a wing, not a prop.
He's still got 3 years before he loses it
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Caleb Clarke is 23. Still becoming his best.
He's a wing, not a prop.
He's still got 3 years before he loses it
So, one World Cup.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@voodoo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Clarke is so bizarre. The defensive mistakes are annoying. But his ability to not beat someone is the oddest thing.
Its like he's forgotten how many guys he's (presumably) run around or over at lower levels. That break after the chip and ALB regather, was classic Clarke. He's full steam until someone gets in his vision, then his stutter step comes out and he loses all pace.
It's one thing to be hungus and have no vision, but he doesn't even have that - he doesn't back his pace, his step, or his power - he just stutter steps into limp contact!
Its really weird.
He just seems panicked in everything to me, it's like someone presses a button before he goes on the field that only allows one word in his head at a time.
"run run run run run step fend shit" fallover
Some guys look like they have time, others look rushed. As flustered as Clarke looked, Telea seemed very composed
Exemplified by the backwards kick-pass from DH. You'd almost expect CC to fall over his feet running back to collect it if he were in the same position.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Clarke seems to be following the Bridge trajectory. Doesn't pin his ears back, lost the ability to beat a man, looks for the contact...
I lump DH in that group. There are moments where is first thought is the offload while there's a massive gap in front of him to exploit first.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Caleb Clarke is 23. Still becoming his best.
He's a wing, not a prop.
He's still got 3 years before he loses it
So, one World Cup.
I'll take that. We'll worry about 2027 in 2024.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
Caleb Clarke is 23. Still becoming his best.
He's a wing, not a prop.
He's still got 3 years before he loses it
So, one World Cup.
With his play since 7s, he's not good enough for this RWC, let alone the next!
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
By the way, not sure it has been mentioned, I quite liked Codie Taylor leading the All Blacks haka. First time, wasn't it?
I feel sure I've seen it before, I guess when there's no Smith/Perenara. Wouldn't bet my coloured boots on it though.
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Scotland:
By the way, not sure it has been mentioned, I quite liked Codie Taylor leading the All Blacks haka. First time, wasn't it?
I feel sure I've seen it before, I guess when there's no Smith/Perenara. Wouldn't bet my coloured boots on it though.
Commentators mentioned it was his first time, am pretty sure.
