Former schoolboy Superstar leaving NRL: Heading To The Canes
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<p>There's a jump from saying a kid will make it to pro level to saying they will go all the way and/or be an AB star.</p>
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<p>Quite a few good examples around of players that looked really good at lower levels but couldn't carry it all the way.</p>
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<p>Some even find the hurdle from Provincial to Super trips them up (see Fritz Lee as a someone awesome at lower levels, couldn't make the step to super but has found his sweet spot at T14)</p>
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<p>Hope he does well though. With young talent like him, the Ioanes, Saveas, Tuipolotu etc etc we won't be lacking for dynamic options.</p>
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<p>Yeah probably shouldn't have used the word "star".</p>
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<p>But it's pretty obvious who has the potential to become one. </p>
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<p>I recall seeing the hype of him as a schoolboy (TV1 News did a piece on him IIRC) and then that he'd gone to league, like the Saveas who were young stars, might take him a year or 2 to shine</p>
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Canes4life, are you the guy who comes up with the outrageous headlines for the Herald or Stuff.co.nz?<br><br>
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<p>4 Big Kids Heading To The Hurricanes (Number 3 Will Shock You)</p>
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<p>I go to a few Storm games , when Ive seen him live , Ive always thought , how did NZ rugby let this guy go ? he did have a bit of a look of a union forward playing league </p>
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<p>but a Very impressive looking athlete ,everything you would want from a lock ,</p>
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<p>Not trying to talk the kid down, but canes4life you really do over-rate any kid that comes through the Wellington Rugby scene to the extreme.</p>
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<p>Not trying to talk the kid down, but canes4life you really do over-rate any kid that comes through the Wellington Rugby scene to the extreme.</p>
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<p>I admire his passion for the team, he like a cantab without the awkwardness that comes with having parents who are blood relatives.</p> -
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"></a></p></blockquote>Just a few questions.<br><br>
If any of you watched Sky Sport College Rugby you would know who this guy is. He was named NRL under 20 player of the year last year and he was meant to have a big future in the game. Its funny how players are getting bored of League with its "run it straight", "crash it up" bullshit. Nelson has pace to burn for such a big guy and he probably doesn't fit the mold of Melbourne - where they have structures put in place. I watched a few of his cameos last year and he man handled some of the top NRL players. I'm optimistic that if he does make the switch back to Rugby he can be a massive force in our game. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="
Which players have have so hilariously stated they are sick of the crash and bash of NRL?<br><br>
Don't all teams have structures in place?<br><br>
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<p>I admire his passion for the team, he like a cantab without the awkwardness that comes with having parents who are blood relatives.</p>
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<p>Not trying to talk the kid down, but canes4life you really do over-rate any kid that comes through the Wellington Rugby scene to the extreme.</p>
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<p>I only rate kids that are worthy of rating. Maybe I am overrating guys like Peter Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Nelson Asofa Solomona but hey I guess the Canes feel the same as they've been bloody quick to sign these guys up. </p>
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<p>Just a few questions.<br><br>
Which players have have so hilariously stated they are sick of the crash and bash of NRL.<br><br>
Don't all teams have structures in place?<br><br>
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<p>Laumape, Fisiiahi and Sonny Bill Williams have expressed recently that League is a very contact dominated sport where room to roam is scarce throughout the duration of a match. Theyve mentioned that Rugby provides them with more open space to attack and the fact that their bodies aren't getting punished like they are in League is a bonus. Plenty of players enjoy the crash and bash of League and thats fine. I just believe that Nelson Asofa Solomona is more effective in rugby, one because of his size and two because he can insert his dominance on more facets of the game.</p>
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<p>To answer the second question you are right, all teams have structures, I just feel some are more structured than others. For example when you compare teams like Melbourne in League and the Crusaders in Rugby they have a strict game plan in place. In contrast teams like the Canes in Rugby and the Broncos in League let their players back themselves a bit more. I guess Nelson doesn't like being tied down to Melbourne's strict game plan and probably feels that he is more suited to a team like the Hurricanes where he can express himself more. </p> -
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<p>I'm still convinced he's the Hurricanes' social media manager</p>
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<p>I only rate kids that are worthy of rating. Maybe I am overrating guys like Peter Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Nelson Asofa Solomona but hey I guess the Canes feel the same as they've been bloody quick to sign these guys up. </p>
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<p>I only rate kids that are worthy of rating. Maybe I am overrating guys like Peter Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Nelson Asofa Solomona but hey I guess the Canes feel the same as they've been bloody quick to sign these guys up. </p>
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<p>Laumape, Fisiiahi and Sonny Bill Williams have expressed recently that League is a very contact dominated sport where room to roam is scarce throughout the duration of a match. Theyve mentioned that Rugby provides them with more open space to attack and the fact that their bodies aren't getting punished like they are in League is a bonus. Plenty of players enjoy the crash and bash of League and thats fine. I just believe that Nelson Asofa Solomona is more effective in rugby, one because of his size and two because he can insert his dominance on more facets of the game.</p>
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<p>To answer the second question you are right, all teams have structures, I just feel some are more structured than others. For example when you compare teams like Melbourne in League and the Crusaders in Rugby they have a strict game plan in place. In contrast teams like the Canes in Rugby and the Broncos in League let their players back themselves a bit more. I guess Nelson doesn't like being tied down to Melbourne's strict game plan and probably feels that he is more suited to a team like the Hurricanes where he can express himself more. </p>
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Laumape, Fisiiahi and Sonny Bill Williams have expressed recently that League is a very contact dominated sport where room to roam is scarce throughout the duration of a match. Theyve mentioned that Rugby provides them with more open space to attack and the fact that their bodies aren't getting punished like they are in League is a bonus.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">To answer the second question you are right, all teams have structures, I just feel some are more structured than others. For example when you compare teams like Melbourne in League and the Crusaders in Rugby they have a strict game plan in place. In contrast teams like the Canes in Rugby and the Broncos in League let their players back themselves a bit more. I guess Nelson doesn't like being tied down to Melbourne's strict game plan and probably feels that he is more suited to a team like the Hurricanes where he can express himself more.
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I get what you are saying, but perhaps this version of Wayne Bennett's Broncos are not the best example. They are structured and disciplined as fuck, stacked full of role players. </span></p> -
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<p>What were Sam Burgess's views ?</p>
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<p>speaking of Slammin' Sammy, it's testament to the maturity of the Fox Sports league commentators that they can admit that he looks to have come back to league a better player thanks to some new skills and a leaner frame. No Ch9-esque "unions a shit sport" bullshit was a refreshing change. </p> -
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<p>speaking of Slammin' Sammy, it's testament to the maturity of the Fox Sports league commentators that they can admit that he looks to have come back to league a better player thanks to some new skills and a leaner frame. No Ch9-esque "unions a shit sport" bullshit was a refreshing change. </p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I get what you are saying, but perhaps this version of Wayne Bennett's Broncos are not the best example. They are structured and disciplined as fuck, stacked full of role players. </span></p>
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<p>And I think the structure bit about Melbourne is more around their defense , they still score shit loads of points , </p>
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<p>Nelson was offloading plenty in the tackles , as do the other kiwi boys , Ive heard he wants to chase his dream of being an All Black ,thats what its about </p>
