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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #1758

    love the calls to play the percentages aimed at a side with Mo'unga at 10, JB at 12, RI at 13, and BB at 15.

    Yeah, that's gonna happen.

    They'll take the long odds option more often than my Sportsbet account

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    Iain Payten  /  Sep 15, 2022  /  Rugby Union

    Midweek Bledisloe set to continue after strong ratings, sell-out crowd

    Midweek Bledisloe set to continue after strong ratings, sell-out crowd

    A big national TV audience and a capacity crowd at Marvel Stadium has left officials happy with the decision to switch the Bledisloe.

    In one of the strongest ratings performances in many years, the Wallabies-All Blacks clash drew in 630,000 viewers on Channel Nine nationally, and with 70,000-plus streaming the game on 9Now, finished with an audience of more than 700,000.
    
    That surpasses the 630,000 who tuned in to watch the Wallabies take on England in Brisbane in July, and combined with Stan viewership figures (which do not get released), informed sources said the Bledisloe Cup clash would have drawn in an audience of more than 1 million viewers.
    
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    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300690027/all-blacks-v-wallabies-quinn-tupaea-out-for-at-least-three-months-after-shot-from-darcy-swain

    All Blacks midfielder Quinn Tupaea won’t play rugby again this year after a controversial shot from Wallabies lock Darcy Swain.

    Coach Ian Foster said on Friday Tupaea would be sidelined for at least three months after suffering a ruptured medial cruciate ligament in his left knee in Thursday’s Bledisloe Cup win in Melbourne.

    He also suffered a partial anterior cruciate ligament tear, Foster said, but he was unsure as to whether Tupaea would need surgery.

    Appalling cheap shot by Darcy Swain. What a swine!

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    @KiwiMurph and TV sales will probably go up today to replace all the broken screens.

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300690027/all-blacks-v-wallabies-quinn-tupaea-out-for-at-least-three-months-after-shot-from-darcy-swain

    All Blacks midfielder Quinn Tupaea won’t play rugby again this year after a controversial shot from Wallabies lock Darcy Swain.

    Coach Ian Foster said on Friday Tupaea would be sidelined for at least three months after suffering a ruptured medial cruciate ligament in his left knee in Thursday’s Bledisloe Cup win in Melbourne.

    He also suffered a partial anterior cruciate ligament tear, Foster said, but he was unsure as to whether Tupaea would need surgery.

    Appalling cheap shot by Darcy Swain. What a swine!

    He's a dumb as he looks.

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    just another fucking dirtbag from the Barron Trinity Bulls

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Bovidae said in Bledisloe 1:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300690027/all-blacks-v-wallabies-quinn-tupaea-out-for-at-least-three-months-after-shot-from-darcy-swain

    All Blacks midfielder Quinn Tupaea won’t play rugby again this year after a controversial shot from Wallabies lock Darcy Swain.

    Coach Ian Foster said on Friday Tupaea would be sidelined for at least three months after suffering a ruptured medial cruciate ligament in his left knee in Thursday’s Bledisloe Cup win in Melbourne.

    He also suffered a partial anterior cruciate ligament tear, Foster said, but he was unsure as to whether Tupaea would need surgery.

    Appalling cheap shot by Darcy Swain. What a swine!

    Clearly not intentional according to Rennie. I wonder what he said when Swain headbutted that English player (Hill?) in July..

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    @antipodean said in Bledisloe 1:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/129910123/wallabies-playmaker-bernard-foley-denies-wasting-time-against-all-blacks

    Of course Foley will deny timewasting. But we all know it is true. In contrast look how fast he knocked that conversion over to eliminate any possibility of review when the aussies scored off that forward pass......

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    @antipodean The referee could have given them a bit more time for the penalty. But once he's warned the players about time-wasting, it's really dumb of Foley not to take the penalty more quickly.

    Obvious coaching point "Listen to the ref."

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe 1:

    @antipodean The referee could have given them a bit more time for the penalty. But once he's warned the players about time-wasting, it's really dumb of Foley not to take the penalty more quickly.

    Obvious coaching point "Listen to the ref."

    His team mates heard it.....

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    @Stargazer said in Bledisloe 1:

    The final 6:39 minutes of the game:

    That's a helluva lot easier/more-enjoyable watch when I already know the ending.

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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:

    What's the point in the Bledisloe when the vastly superior team gets awarded a win in a rare off year by the rarest of debatable technicalities.

    No wonder League is poaching all of the Aus and increasingly, NZ talent.

    You've never ever seen a ref pull up time wasting before? Can't have watched much code.

    The crowd knew it was obvious time wasting, so did your other players. I totally get that the consequences were a bitch and I'd be annoyed as well but it wasn't the ref's fault. I even believe that Foley didn't hear 'time on' or expected the ref to manage it a different way but that is on him and his awareness.

    I've not seen a ref do it to a ten for not being quick enough with a penalty kick. I'd love to see another example

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    @Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:

    @antipodean you certainly don't seem like the kind of bloke who is ever happy, let's be honest eh.

    Fuck I love irony.
    Intentional, un-intentional - it's just a delight.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Crucial unfortunately he does drift with indecision and then he shoots out of the line to try and make up for it. It was actually surprising to watch live how exposed he got himself on at least two occasions.

    Hopefully he can work on that.

    Interesting to hear that live perspective. On camera all you see is the act which looks deliberate.
    Maybe it is the defensive plan but his indecision is causing the failure. I do think it is a dumb idea but, as I mentioned in another post, it is a flavour of the moment for a lot of coaches at the moment.
    I won't mention searchable names here but I do know of one FPC team that is definitely employing this theory. I know because I have questioned an affected player and asked why they are shooting in on an angle and leaving the outside and the have explained that is what the coach is telling them to do. Then I have seen it in other games. I'm putting two and two together here and giving Clarke the benefit of doubt but I will also temper that with knowledge that he is hesitant.
    Probably because it is so stupid a theory that it doesn't come instinctively 😉

    Jordan's doing similar on the other side as well at times. Against the Irish several times he came in to take the "Centre" leaving the wider man free and for Jordie as a second line if he failed to shut things down.

    Mapimpi's try in Boks II was something similar - he clearly came charging infield and left Mapimpi unmarked for a wide pass if they could execute it (which they did).

    I guess it's some sort of Umbrella defence, but I don't like it either.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Crucial unfortunately he does drift with indecision and then he shoots out of the line to try and make up for it. It was actually surprising to watch live how exposed he got himself on at least two occasions.

    Hopefully he can work on that.

    Interesting to hear that live perspective. On camera all you see is the act which looks deliberate.
    Maybe it is the defensive plan but his indecision is causing the failure. I do think it is a dumb idea but, as I mentioned in another post, it is a flavour of the moment for a lot of coaches at the moment.
    I won't mention searchable names here but I do know of one FPC team that is definitely employing this theory. I know because I have questioned an affected player and asked why they are shooting in on an angle and leaving the outside and the have explained that is what the coach is telling them to do. Then I have seen it in other games. I'm putting two and two together here and giving Clarke the benefit of doubt but I will also temper that with knowledge that he is hesitant.
    Probably because it is so stupid a theory that it doesn't come instinctively 😉

    Jordan's doing similar on the other side as well at times. Against the Irish several times he came in to take the "Centre" leaving the wider man free and for Jordie as a second line if he failed to shut things down.

    Mapimpi's try in Boks II was something similar - he clearly came charging infield and left Mapimpi unmarked for a wide pass if they could execute it (which they did).

    I guess it's some sort of Umbrella defence, but I don't like it either.

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    McLEOD OUT

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    The other one I don't understand is when the opposition has a wing clearly set wide for a cross kick, but his opposing winger is standing well infield with no chance of contesting or saving the try if the opposition can execute the cross kick.

    Maybe some moneyball statistician has crunched the numbers and tempting the cross kick is a great option to waste an attacking position - but, the defending wing certainly looks like a fluffybunny when it comes off.

    I haven't re-looked at the cross-kick to Clarke last night, but I'd be less surprised if the moneyball odds on a cross-kick in your own 22 were particularly good.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Crucial said in Bledisloe 1:

    @Derpus said in Bledisloe 1:

    What's the point in the Bledisloe when the vastly superior team gets awarded a win in a rare off year by the rarest of debatable technicalities.

    No wonder League is poaching all of the Aus and increasingly, NZ talent.

    You've never ever seen a ref pull up time wasting before? Can't have watched much code.

    The crowd knew it was obvious time wasting, so did your other players. I totally get that the consequences were a bitch and I'd be annoyed as well but it wasn't the ref's fault. I even believe that Foley didn't hear 'time on' or expected the ref to manage it a different way but that is on him and his awareness.

    I've not seen a ref do it to a ten for not being quick enough with a penalty kick. I'd love to see another example

    The point is that refs will blow for time wasting (usually with a warning first). Doesn’t matter how it happens.
    You don’t often see it called from a penalty kick for touch as players hardly ever waste time in that play. They usually push as far as the ref reacts then the team moves as slowly as they can get away with to the lineout.
    That would have been the smart option as you get two bites at delaying the play.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Chris-B we nailed at least 2 maybe 3 crossfields last night. It’s the new normal I guess and looks to be well trained. And given defensive systems it’s not a bad ploy

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