All Blacks v Argentina II
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Stargazer cool. Well if you think a23 with the ability to win 3 games out of nine is good enough. Good on you. But I don't, what we have is not good enough. Selections, tactics, coaching, mental strength, micro skills, etc are all at a level of quarter final exits that's what we'll get if we stick with this. The fact this is the first time the same 15 had started 3 times in a row in the pro era shows how important using that risk continuity is. Not at all
Next game will be something very close to the same 23 - might be a couple of changes on the bench depending on what they might want different for the Australians - and Newell is still very green, wouldn't surprise me to see him make way - for someone, not sure who.
The three-times stat probably reflects partially how often people get injured in the pro-era, but also the luxury we've had to tinker and give people a run. But, this is a unique (for us) situation and not the time for tinkering. Keep building confidence, hopefully get to "won 3 of the last 4", lock up the Bledisloe, and then maybe there's a chance to make a change or two for Eden Park.
On the match - that was really good given the conditions. Certainly the best performance this year, one of the best of the past two.
Not sure we're quite in the box seat for TRC but we've got our noses in front and destiny in our own hands. Winning that would be quite good at this point!
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
Front row is out of my area of expertise, but they seem to have stumbled on something here ,
Do they play this front row all the way through to the wc now ?
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Lomax has certainly made the most if his chances. Be interesting if he retains his starting spot . Big step up from his super rugby form.
I think he does. We finally have the mobility, energy and strength we are searching for.
Sami also performs better with Lomax and DeGroot. Doesn't have to do their jobs as well.
May not be perfect but is what we need.On a different note I think Sami T has to be right up there in worlds best hooker contention. Was certainly better than Marx was last night.
**Front row is out of my area of expertise, but they seem to have stumbled on something here ,
Do they play this front row all the way through to the wc now**
Rests versus Japan etc, but YES
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@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
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@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
Geez I hope not PUJ, I a Canes man, but hve yet to see the attraction of him. He is reasonably good super player at best I think anyway.
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@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
At this stage Morgan looks like the same type of 10 as BB and RM, except inexperienced and not as good.
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How good
Gorgeous sunny day in the tropics. I'm laying in the sun by the pool. I got spoiled for fathers day. I had a breakfast beer.
And last night the ABs were fucking awesome. Forwards wrecked the other teams shit, backs took full toll.
Life is pretty good at times aye?
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Foster Hinted at some new players to be selected we may see some changes for the EOYT.
I don’t see any stand outs outside the squad yet
Some young guns coming through but vastly inexperienced.Maybe a couple of projects will be selected.
Isn't that what the ABs XV team will be used for?
Additions to the senior squad, I'd say that points at players who are experienced and in some cases may have already been there. I sure hope not it's Asafo Aumua, but it's a possibility (I'd prefer George Bell, but he's very green). Dmac is another one, although he's been hot and cold in the NPC, too, thus far. If they need another halfback, maybe Weber. Not sure whether Cullen Grace will be fit in time, but he'd be another option if he's available. At lock, maybe Josh Dickson.
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
PUJ hasn't been very convincing. Maybe his twin, although he breaks often. Morgan, same comment as Dmac but way too green (even for the ABs XV).
@Chris Did Foster also hint at players being dropped?
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@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
We're only allowed a RWC squad of 33 - I'd imagine an 18/15 split - which will allow four midfielders.
I reckon, barring injury, you can just about lock in ALB, Havili and Rieko - so we need one more from Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS and anyone else - plus potential need for injury cover. There's not much time to build the guys we have - the current combo, plus Tupaea and RTS. I'd be a bit surprised to see anyone else new in the equation unless Schmidt has a plan that necessitates a big munter like TUJ.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Foster Hinted at some new players to be selected we may see some changes for the EOYT.
I don’t see any stand outs outside the squad yet
Some young guns coming through but vastly inexperienced.Maybe a couple of projects will be selected.
Isn't that what the ABs XV team will be used for?
Additions to the senior squad, I'd say that points at players who are experienced and in some cases may have already been there. I sure hope not it's Asafo Aumua, but it's a possibility (I'd prefer George Bell, but he's very green). Dmac is another one, although he's been hot and cold in the NPC, too, thus far. If they need another halfback, maybe Weber. Not sure whether Cullen Grace will be fit in time, but he'd be another option if he's available. At lock, maybe Josh Dickson.
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
PUJ hasn't been very convincing. Maybe his twin, although he breaks often. Morgan, same comment as Dmac but way too green (even for the ABs XV).
@Chris Did Foster also hint at players being dropped?
Not really,He mentioned when they selected the new props after the SA 2nd test in an interview,He was asked about how well he thought they played and he mentioned it would be followed by some new faces to be selected this season in a view to the WC.
He mentioned new caps and fresh blood new enthusiasm to be added .I assume the EYOT is the time do that.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
We're only allowed a RWC squad of 33 - I'd imagine an 18/15 split - which will allow four midfielders.
I reckon, barring injury, you can just about lock in ALB, Havili and Rieko - so we need one more from Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS and anyone else - plus potential need for injury cover. There's not much time to build the guys we have - the current combo, plus Tupaea and RTS. I'd be a bit surprised to see anyone else new in the equation unless Schmidt has a plan that necessitates a big munter like TUJ.
Versatility will be the Key,You need to cover all options a long way to get players over to France if anyone goes down.
Blackadder would be the type of player needed plays all 3 positions.
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Rieko played well and put his outsides away, albeit with his passes generally being harder to take than what they should have been.
Yeah, it feels wrong to nit pick, he was great as was the whole team. But it was pretty noticeable that his delivery was just a bit off, nothing sympathetic there. Easy work-on though, the rest of his game was ace
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
We're only allowed a RWC squad of 33 - I'd imagine an 18/15 split - which will allow four midfielders.
I reckon, barring injury, you can just about lock in ALB, Havili and Rieko - so we need one more from Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS and anyone else - plus potential need for injury cover. There's not much time to build the guys we have - the current combo, plus Tupaea and RTS. I'd be a bit surprised to see anyone else new in the equation unless Schmidt has a plan that necessitates a big munter like TUJ.
I am not into projects and RTS should be no where near the All Blacks at the moment. Nothing but league reputation and desire to promote talent before performance gets him in the squad. He was stood up and run around by Murray yesterday playing Northland. Not the first time his defence has shown to be poor - and he had the same issues playing league. They have wasted the opportunity to develop someone else who has been playing rugby for the last decade. If he comes right then pick him but the free pass he is getting just doesn’t stack up.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Chris PUJ if fit? I know he's been in the mix but I hope we see some more 12/13s in the squad. I wonder if Aidan Morgan maybe be bolter as well. We seem to collect 10/15 so having another specialist 10 to check out could be good.
We're only allowed a RWC squad of 33 - I'd imagine an 18/15 split - which will allow four midfielders.
I reckon, barring injury, you can just about lock in ALB, Havili and Rieko - so we need one more from Goodhue, Tupaea, RTS and anyone else - plus potential need for injury cover. There's not much time to build the guys we have - the current combo, plus Tupaea and RTS. I'd be a bit surprised to see anyone else new in the equation unless Schmidt has a plan that necessitates a big munter like TUJ.
Versatility will be the Key,You need to cover all options a long way to get players over to France if anyone goes down.
Blackadder would be the type of player needed plays all 3 positions.
There will be some harsh decisions in the loose forwards.
Quite likely they'll only take five (unless they only take 14 backs).
Cane, Savea, Frizell, Papali'i, Ioane, Sotutu, Blackadder, Sowakula, Grace, Jacobson.
Quite a few of these guys won't be going.
