All Blacks v Pumas 1
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Foster might still get a hostile crowd reception but selecting Mo'unga in a Chch test will certainly help his cause. I don't expect any changes to the starting XV.
I know a backline that would endear him to the Chch crowd….
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@ACT-Crusader Would they even notice with the eye patch on?
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)
Taranaki didn't bother starting him at 10 on the weekend. That would have been an ideal time to give him a run there.
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@Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Tim said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
It’s a tad concerning that his noggin is copping quite a few knocks lately.
Has it been confirmed that his noggin took the knock?
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@ACT-Crusader Not as far as I have seen.
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew christ, your a pendant
(triggered yet?)
I'm an anti-pedant pedant.
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@Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)
Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)
Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.
Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).
Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.
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@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)
Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.
Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).
Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.
Imagine the shit Foster would cop if that didn't work out.
It will be interesting to see how/if they can give RTS playing time though. With 4 midfielders that aren't versatile the options are limited. They have obviously worked hard on upskilling QT to play 13 and currently he is the only real cover there except Ennor.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
That's what I'd plan to do.
I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).
I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.
So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.
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ACT Crusaderreplied to KiwiMurph on 24 Aug 2022, 02:03 last edited by ACT Crusader 24 Aug 2022, 02:04
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
After watching Aussies and Argies and the Argies propensity to kick, I’d be hesitant to replace Jordie given he seems to have found his mojo again for attacking the high ball. He was pretty key for us in SA 2 in the air.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
That's what I'd plan to do.
I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).
I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.
So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.
We seem to think that we need bench firepower at 10 when we should be planning to be in control.
A tactical change up could work well where Fakatava keeps the other team in doubt but the 10 keeps them pinned back. I'd like to see how Perofeta goes in that situation. -
@Crucial or possibly smith off the bench and plays the playmaker role a bit more from 9 as he he did for the landers when gilbert was at 10 this year
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I think we started with Lomax and De Groot against the Boks because we saw they had selected their weaker scrummaging props to start. So, if the Argies start with their best scrummaging front row, I think Newell and Bower get the start.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
That's what I'd plan to do.
I don't really hold with the idea of planned substitution of your first five - but, you need cover in case he gets hurt (or is having an absolute mare).
I'd like to see some tests where Beaudy and Richie aren't paired, because they don't seem to have quite worked out as hoped. I think Fozzie has been playing a game of trying to keep both of them happy with game time, possibly to the detriment of the team.
So Perofeta (or DMac) on the bench.
It's been an ongoing frustration that they keep pairing Beauden and Mo'unga together when it clearly hasn't been working. Even if both players are buying into the idea off the pitch, in the heat of a test we get a jumbled approach and neither really take control of the game. Mo'unga definitely benefited from being in charge last test and played a lot better as a result.
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Kick off is 745? What the actual fuck?
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I guess it's about how much time there is between the two Tests.
The Aussie Test is at 5:30pm. I presume that would finish around 7:15ish then the broadcasters would want some time in between
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew There's also the option to bring Perofeta on at 15.
Yeah, I thought that, but we have enough cover there already with Giraffe & Jordan and I suspect Foster sees Perofeta as the 3rd 10.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Frank said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Would love to see how Perofeta goes at 10 after Mounga has played the first 60 or so(assuming we can afford to bring him on)
Think he'll be on the bench if BB is ruled out but Ritche may well play the full 80 depending on how the game pans out.
Just throwing it out there, but could we see the same starting backline as SA 2, but on the bench have a midfielder (QT or RTS) plus a winger (eg Reece).
Plan to play Mo’unga for 80 and better utilise the options on the bench. If he gets crook we run with either Jordie or Havili at 10.
I think they want to win this one well and go for experience, so suspect QT on the bench instead of RTS. Foster can then give some of the newbies game time in Pumas 2.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@Duluth
Also remember that the Aussie tests are inAdelaide. South Australiahas aweirdtime zone, being half an hour (not an hour) behind NSW, Queensland etc.😉
Quite historic, can’t recall a test match in Adelaide
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@ACT-Crusader The 2003 RWC had games at Adelaide Oval, including a Wallaby pool game.
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Aus v Nam 142-0 RWC 2003.
Also Ire v Arg RWC 2003. Was a 1 pointer IIRC. Think the Paddies got up. Boring game.
Also Wobs v Pac Islanders. 2004 I think. Actually went to that game. IIRC both Sivivati and Lauaki scored in the SW just in front of where I was sitting. (Will have to check the actual scorers.) Made some comment about getting them into black jerseys which I recall was greeted like a cup of cold sick ...
Went to Aus A v Fiji one year too.
But can't recall any other tests there.
Edit: was right about Lauaki. Other try scorer was Sireli Bobo (not Sivi)
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@booboo cheers.
I guess this is the biggest test match in Adelaide in recent times.
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Team named at 11.30am NZT
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@KiwiMurph are you sure?
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One possible wild card is Joe’s analysis of Pumas. On past form, a specific selection to probe an identified weakness wouldn’t surprise.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Team named at 11.30am NZT
No wonder the world is going to shit, team's not named at 0600 local, game is not at 1930, or 1905!
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Hope to see Reece back in the 23
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Hard to predict what will happen. There's media and some public pressure to pick the same side. Then there's the need try different players/combinations and there's not many Tests until the RWC
Seems like an ideal chance to give Perofeta time from the bench. After Foster singled out Sotutu for praise earlier in the week I expect to see him on the bench.
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@ARHS said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
Hope to see Reece back in the 23
Dont think that will happen. Cant carry a third wing. Biggest issue there is cover at 13.
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So just Perofeta for BB.
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks v Pumas 1:
@ARHS hope to see Sotutu back in the 23..
Nope...biggest head scratcher really.
All Fozzies eggs in the Savea basket, luckily so far he is pretty durable and goes for 80 most often, but doesnt help with Sotutus development.
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