NZ Cricket
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The Hamilton farewell seems a bit indulgent. Out of the 3 tests, the Hamilton match is the one he should be rotated out for with Santner coming in to the 11 on a Seddon Park pitch.
Assuming the other debutant seamer goes ok in the earlier tests.
Painting themselves into a bit if a corner.
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In the last 2 seasons nz have toured all 4 of the Asian test nations for away series. Apart from the Sri Lanka tour, Tim has done ok on those tours bowling dry and chipping some wickets.
So, even though I think he's been cooked for about a year , and I'd rank him our 7th best seamer currently, he has (by staying on too long) saved some raw kiwi seamer raised on green tops from aa likely horror tour to debut in.
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Also. They were indulgent last year with Wagner. And that is biting us in the ass a little bit now - in that one of Smith or Duffy would already have a test cap under their belt v a an understregth Proteas. It would be easier to pull the trigger on Southee if we had that.
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Doug Bracewell been out partying with the rugby boys?
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@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
Doug Bracewell been out partying with the rugby boys?
Getting done three times for DUI isn’t a good look either
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It's a tough business professional sport, and especially international cricket where there isn't a subs bench, or smaller club - to move to when you start to age.
After 15 years of (mostly) supporting Southee pretty hard (as swing bowling is my favourite disciple to watch), it is a bit yuck to be spending the last few months calling for him to go. Same with Wagner last year. (although I'm not going to lie and say I spent 15 years with an uncritical admiration of Tim, there were times he was frustrating. E.g. his batting, and my suspicion that it is internal competition that pushes him - e.g. a risk of losing a spot to Matt Henry sparked a revival after a few years of medcocrity when the should have been continuing at his prime)
I do think though, that my learning as a fan, is that after the WTC these blackcaps cruised and everyone (squad, coach, media, fans) were a bit too laid back and resting on their laurels. So, my lesson is their needs to remain that 'noise' for standards to be maintained and hard calls to be made.
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@Rapido said in NZ Cricket:
Quite likely going to see these 2 swap positions by the end of this 3 test series:
(Though hopefully with them both starting with a 2)Screenshot 2024-11-19 at 9.39.23 AM
Its depressing enough being reminded how short but amazing Bonds record was, now you have to see Jamieson as well...
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@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
Doull and Nash both average much less than I remember, although I feel like pitches in NZ don't offer quite as much as they would have when they were playing.
It's depressing that the top 3 don't even have 50 tests between them.
Also, didn't actually play that many tests and my memory makes me feel like they were both core team members.
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@LABCAT said in NZ Cricket:
@Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:
Doull and Nash both average much less than I remember, although I feel like pitches in NZ don't offer quite as much as they would have when they were playing.
It's depressing that the top 3 don't even have 50 tests between them.
Also, didn't actually play that many tests and my memory makes me feel like they were both core team members.
Both finished before their 30th birthdays (due to injury)
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
Doull and Nash were both very good players.
A shame between them and Cairns they were injured all the fucken time. That would have been quite the trio had they played together more often.
Nash dragged us over the line at Lords to win a series v England I think - arguably one of his finest moments
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@nzzp said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
Doull and Nash were both very good players.
A shame between them and Cairns they were injured all the fucken time. That would have been quite the trio had they played together more often.
Nash dragged us over the line at Lords to win a series v England I think - arguably one of his finest moments
Handy batsman at times too, definitely a bit of a “coulda been”
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@reprobate said in NZ Cricket:
Medium paced swing bowlers, good when conditions suit them.
Doull averaged 54 against Australia. Nash only played them once but didn't take a wicket, so doesn't get an average.That would have been his last test match, broken.
I wouldn't describe Nash as a swing bowler. Yes, he had a good outswinger. But most of his role in the second half of his career was as a disciplined bang-it-in / back-of-a-length bowler.
Until Wagner. I'd describe him as NZ's best 'specialist' 3rd seamer. that I had seen Although he did also open the bowling about hald his matches - when e.g. Doull was crocked, as well as earlier in his career.
