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While the focus on a single player with a reasonable record (Nicholls)may seem an over-reaction to the NZ selection competence.
I feel it is the canary in the coalmine, hence my 'goat being got' on the subject.
The structure of the current iteration of the NZ cricket selection 'panel' was suitable when building a new young team (Edgar/Hesson) and then letting that team purr for a few years (Larsen/Stead).
A focus on a team culture with continuiity of selection and loyalty is suitable for those phases.
A team needing renewel and gradual reconstruction needs a more detached and aloof chief of selection, with more power.
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Keep an eye on Wellington Firebirds opener Tim Robinson. Less than a month after the 21-year-old thumped a big century against Otago, the exciting and hard-hitting prospect clubbed 86 off 46 against Canterbury in Christchurch on Thursday afternoon. The leading Super Smash run scorer’s knock was instrumental in table-topping Wellington’s 21-run victory over the Kings, and prompted teammate and Dutch international Logan van Beek to made a bold prediction. “That guy is going to play a lot for New Zealand in the future,” van Beek told TVNZ shortly after Canterbury started their pursuit of Wellington’s 184-5. -
@Nepia was ahead of his time. Some days it feels like Sumo has commentated Every. Single. Ball. of every Super Smash mens and womens game this summer.
TVNZ defend broadcaster from Ian Smith's 's..thouse" comment
They took the mickey out of Vaughan later on too, so perhaps not as intense as Stuff headlines it.
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@LABCAT said in NZ Cricket:
I actually grown to like Sumo, although I don't he'll ever be as good as Smith, he just doesn't have the same level of passion or knowledge.
Off the cuff remark from Smithy, nothing in it.
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
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@booboo said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
Can't say I agree.
The fern is built on disagreements so thats fine.
Prime example for me is the Channel nine crew when Richie, Bill, Tony, Ian etc were in their pomp. Not only ex players but all very good players in their day too.
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@reprobate said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 Surely the skills you need to be a good cricketer are in fuck-all ways related to the skills to be a good commentator.
Not for me to say but when they’d doing analysis I’ll always listen to the guy who has been there and done that over the guy who hasn’t. Maybe it’s just me.
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
The names will probably mean nothing to you kids
Brian Johnston, John Arlott, Henry Blofeld.
One season of varsity cricket between them.
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
@reprobate said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 Surely the skills you need to be a good cricketer are in fuck-all ways related to the skills to be a good commentator.
Not for me to say but when they’d doing analysis I’ll always listen to the guy who has been there and done that over the guy who hasn’t. Maybe it’s just me.
Schmidt, Hansen Henry? All superb coaches and analysts - but not top players. If they turned their mind to it could all be interesting commentators. The analysis would be top tier anyway!
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@dogmeat said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
The names will probably mean nothing to you kids
Brian Johnston, John Arlott, Henry Blofeld.
One season of varsity cricket between them.
I’ll give that to you, fair call. He was outstanding. Loved his work. I’ve heard the others were great too.
…..but he did at least play first class cricket as if to feebly enforce my original point.
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
I'd put it a different way and say in cricket ex players have a ceiling that is higher than those who haven't played in regards to commentary. Someone like Ponting is an excellent listen.
Saying always better - clearly you haven't heard Dave Warner commentate.....
I'd rather have Mark Howard commentate than a number of ex players (Ian Healy, Rigor immediately come to mind).
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@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
@booboo said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
Can't say I agree.
The fern is built on disagreements so thats fine.
Prime example for me is the Channel nine crew when Richie, Bill, Tony, Ian etc were in their pomp. Not only ex players but all very good players in their day too.
And they were inarguably better than the likes of John Arlott, Tony Cozier, Harsha Bogle, Neil Manthorpe, Christopher Martin-Jenkins, Brian Waddle, Jim Maxwell ... ?
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@booboo said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
@booboo said in NZ Cricket:
@MN5 said in NZ Cricket:
In saying that ex players are ALWAYS better commentators than people who haven’t played in my opinion.
Can't say I agree.
The fern is built on disagreements so thats fine.
Prime example for me is the Channel nine crew when Richie, Bill, Tony, Ian etc were in their pomp. Not only ex players but all very good players in their day too.
And they were inarguably better than the likes of John Arlott, Tony Cozier, Harsha Bogle, Neil Manthorpe, Christopher Martin-Jenkins, Brian Waddle, Jim Maxwell ... ?
I might be starting to regret my initial post……
But backing down online is considered weak so yeah, those guys you mentioned. All terrible.
Especially Harsha Boyle, not funny or insightful and his chemistry with Skull O’Keefe was non existent.
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