Springboks v All Blacks I
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
'As a halfback, it is pretty noticeable': Aaron Smith on All Blacks' breakdown issues
The breakdown was an area that plagued the All Blacks at home against Ireland at times and has been a key work-on for Ian Foster's team.
So who are the dodgy cleaners, the props? Think Scooter and Big Sam are fine. Advantage of former at 6 was we got some cleaning there.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@No-Quarter Excellent post. I’ll be watching next week, because things can only get better.
Yeah, I probably will too, getting up with my boy is something I really enjoy doing as I used to do it with my old man. But far out it is tough viewing at the moment.
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@game_film maybe get him in as a high ball consultant...
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@game_film Jordan, Clarke, Jordie Barrett, and Beauden Barrett are all good under the high-ball, so we shouldn't have big problems. The structure isn't good. Same as we were not positioning guards at the ruck for Smith's box kicks, or lining up chasers.
The coaching is poor. Auckland under White, Blues under Umaga etc - name whatever under performing NZ team that you can think of.
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Havili and Ioane are okay under the ball, but haven't developed at all in that regard over the last three seasons, nor do they display any confidence there.
It's very frustrating.
What the fuck is Strawbridge doing this year? We have extra coaches like the Lions had hangers on in 2005.
Our scrum has been very inconsistent at best, and we have two scrum coaches. A fucking shambles.
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@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Tim For sure, I would like to see the coach address the Boks reckless kick chase either privately or publicly as well. At least 2 incidents before the red that warranted a second look, I thought.
Even their try, the SA winger whose name I keep forgetting just took a flying leap and had a swipe at the ball. He was super reckless all game.
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@African-Monkey said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@mariner4life They're easy targets thats why.
As I said earlier, we're just poorly coached with a well outdated gameplan. Can't say anyone individually had a howler (apart from Coles).
Easy targets like Scooter, Mo’unga, Havili, Fainga’anuku aye… 😉
I agree that overall there weren’t many howlers, some mistakes and turnovers more costly than others, but there was effort and some good play. I can’t say I ever thought in the second half we were going to create enough to win the test, but just wanted to see some footy played. Far few good moments.
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Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
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@Toddy said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
The biggest problem for the Bok winger is that he hit BB who was in the air and he was still on the ground. Never had a chance of having an in the air contest.
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@Toddy said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
Those type of incidents are some of the worst. Even more so than an accidental high shot, the chaser is closing in on an opponent in a vulnerable position who doesn't see them coming. Just like tunnelling in basketball it is extremely dangerous. That guy should get a long suspension, BB could have got a life suspension from using his body from the head down
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@ACT-Crusader I think everyone on here is guilty of provincial bias towards a team they love/hate lol, some worse than others haha.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@kev said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@stodders you have to win the contact.
I thought ABs did that at times. Problem was, ABs committed too many men to breakdown, so after 2 or 3 phases they were running out of players and Boks were picking them off.
ABs body angles at clearout aren't good enough to clear bodies, so it is taking an extra man to effect it. It doesn't help that refs are allowing players to slow ball down whilst clearly not supporting their bodyweight, but hey, c'est la vie.
What seems to be issue is that oppo tacklers good at impeding ball placement. Then second man patient and gets the latch. Our cleaners aren’t taking him out.
Noticed Ardie several times looking to do same, but all but once Boks body smashed into him, in some cases arguably before he’d joined the ruck.
Yeah, but Marx has awful technique and gets away with it. It's supposed to be exactly what they're looking for to penalise - hands on the floor first, hips well in front of feet, knees leaning on the player on the ground, taking advantage of his own players impeding cleaners and ball placement. It literally ticks all the fucking boxes, almost everytime and then that fluffybunny Gardiner has the gall to penalise Scooter for offside on the charge down and Cane for being off his feet despite never being off his feet.
He's lined himself up nicely for a RWC final gig.
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"We're pretty excited about the next challenge of playing at Ellis Park for a trophy."
The guy seems to dine out on losses in search of the next thrill.
