Springboks v All Blacks I
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@No-Quarter Excellent post. I’ll be watching next week, because things can only get better.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@MrDenmore said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Yet none of the Springboks’ tactics was surprising. It’s how they beat us last year after all. But we still have no effective response, no ideas, no confidence and absolutely no future under this coaching regime.
They beat us last year with a last minute penalty and kick at the death. We had better attack last year to put pressure on the Boks. This year we couldn’t put any scoreboard pressure on them allowing them to just settle into their game.
The striking thing is that the main changes in backs from 100th win, were Nugget in and Clarke for Bridge! And Boks backs almost identical.
10-12-13 same for both sides as that game. What has gone wrong in that 11 months? Has Bok defence got a lot better, or have our guys just lost the plot?
I think you answered your own question. We no longer have Bridge.
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
'As a halfback, it is pretty noticeable': Aaron Smith on All Blacks' breakdown issues
The breakdown was an area that plagued the All Blacks at home against Ireland at times and has been a key work-on for Ian Foster's team.
So who are the dodgy cleaners, the props? Think Scooter and Big Sam are fine. Advantage of former at 6 was we got some cleaning there.
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@pakman said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@No-Quarter Excellent post. I’ll be watching next week, because things can only get better.
Yeah, I probably will too, getting up with my boy is something I really enjoy doing as I used to do it with my old man. But far out it is tough viewing at the moment.
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@game_film maybe get him in as a high ball consultant...
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@game_film Jordan, Clarke, Jordie Barrett, and Beauden Barrett are all good under the high-ball, so we shouldn't have big problems. The structure isn't good. Same as we were not positioning guards at the ruck for Smith's box kicks, or lining up chasers.
The coaching is poor. Auckland under White, Blues under Umaga etc - name whatever under performing NZ team that you can think of.
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Havili and Ioane are okay under the ball, but haven't developed at all in that regard over the last three seasons, nor do they display any confidence there.
It's very frustrating.
What the fuck is Strawbridge doing this year? We have extra coaches like the Lions had hangers on in 2005.
Our scrum has been very inconsistent at best, and we have two scrum coaches. A fucking shambles.
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@game_film said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Tim For sure, I would like to see the coach address the Boks reckless kick chase either privately or publicly as well. At least 2 incidents before the red that warranted a second look, I thought.
Even their try, the SA winger whose name I keep forgetting just took a flying leap and had a swipe at the ball. He was super reckless all game.
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@African-Monkey said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@mariner4life They're easy targets thats why.
As I said earlier, we're just poorly coached with a well outdated gameplan. Can't say anyone individually had a howler (apart from Coles).
Easy targets like Scooter, Mo’unga, Havili, Fainga’anuku aye… 😉
I agree that overall there weren’t many howlers, some mistakes and turnovers more costly than others, but there was effort and some good play. I can’t say I ever thought in the second half we were going to create enough to win the test, but just wanted to see some footy played. Far few good moments.
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Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
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@Toddy said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
The biggest problem for the Bok winger is that he hit BB who was in the air and he was still on the ground. Never had a chance of having an in the air contest.
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@Toddy said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Any chance the Bok gets off with no suspension? Is there some rule where you can challenge someone in the air with no intention of catching the ball and knock them onto their neck/head but it's considered a 'soak challenge' so should really have been play on.
Those type of incidents are some of the worst. Even more so than an accidental high shot, the chaser is closing in on an opponent in a vulnerable position who doesn't see them coming. Just like tunnelling in basketball it is extremely dangerous. That guy should get a long suspension, BB could have got a life suspension from using his body from the head down
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@ACT-Crusader I think everyone on here is guilty of provincial bias towards a team they love/hate lol, some worse than others haha.
