Foster, Robertson etc
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@Chris said in Foster must go:
@Frank said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
Sounds pretty certain. Shit.
What a shit show,Right off 2022 and 2023 hopefully then we get a proper coaching group in.
By 2024 a few players would have taken their overseas pension fund and we can start a fresh,and hopefully some of the Board are gone due to this mess they have created.
We just have to sit through 18 months of bad results,Heaps of BS and some painful frustrating rugby to watch.
And apparently another learning curve when ever we lose.These coaches must have learn't a shit load in the last 2 years due to all these learnings.PhD level mate. They should be geniuses in failure by the end of 2022
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@canefan said in Foster must go:
@Chris said in Foster must go:
@Frank said in Foster must go:
@Tim said in Foster must go:
Sounds pretty certain. Shit.
What a shit show,Right off 2022 and 2023 hopefully then we get a proper coaching group in.
By 2024 a few players would have taken their overseas pension fund and we can start a fresh,and hopefully some of the Board are gone due to this mess they have created.
We just have to sit through 18 months of bad results,Heaps of BS and some painful frustrating rugby to watch.
And apparently another learning curve when ever we lose.These coaches must have learn't a shit load in the last 2 years due to all these learnings.PhD level mate. They should be geniuses in failure by the end of 2022
Taking it to a new Level.
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@Chris-B Poor Colin Farrell consistently picked as worst AB ever - which I don't think he was.
He was a fan favourite for Akl carving it up from fullback. So he's picked as a running fullback (as a green 21 year old) and gets the ball once in two tests!!!
Ironically IIRC he wasn't a bad kicker for Akl but the AB's decided to use BeeGee (coz that worked well in SA)and Going.
The worse decision was picking Kit - I expect to score more off the field than on it - Fawcett in 76
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@dogmeat said in Foster must go:
@Chris-B Poor Colin Farrell consistently picked as worst AB ever - which I don't think he was.
He was a fan favourite for Akl carving it up from fullback. So he's picked as a running fullback (as a green 21 year old) and gets the ball once in two tests!!!
Ironically IIRC he wasn't a bad kicker for Akl but the AB's decided to use BeeGee (coz that worked well in SA)and Going.
The worse decision was picking Kit - I expect to score more off the field than on it - Fawcett in 76
He ran a bit hot and cold
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@mariner4life LETS GO POVERTY BAY.
Calling on the spirit of the famous 74 team that beat Hawkes Bay. Any brothers playing for Poverty Bay these days?
The funny thing about calling off the presser is that it’s not as if fans were going to crash these largely staged events and ask the hard hitting questions.
We may have seen a couple of questions but I’m guessing they would hardly be that difficult to answer:
- should you resign?
- the team isn’t clicking, what’s going on?
- the gameplan to kick when on attack in their half, what’s going on there?
- the things that you worked on in training during the week, did they happen out there?
- will be there major changes to the squad given this series loss?
- the players that didn’t feature in the Irish series, will we see them at in the RC?
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I can handle the shit show to continue until the end of the year, if it's absolutely certain that Razor can take over in the new year with the coaching team he wants. Just meet all his demands. Sign him up until 2027 RWC, whatever. Just as long as it is a clean break from what we have now, and not half-arsed changes.
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@Stargazer i'd still prefer it before the EOYT...then he can experiment on that and then spend all next year building
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@MajorRage said in Foster must go:
@BerniesCorner said in Foster must go:
Over at Stuff
"Mark Reason: The fishheads who are stinking out the All Blacks"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300640271/mark-reason-the-fishheads-who-are-stinking-out-the-all-blacksAnyone else find this type of journalism totally unacceptable
Agree with every single thing he says.
Why do you think it’s unacceptable?
People on massive salaries get paid it because they have to accept colossal criticism when they fail to meet their kpi’s.
People who think this is unacceptable have been listening to too much Cindy.
I didn't see much wrong in the article.
Who is Cindy, what is that about?
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so, it is after midday on the Wednesday
In a week of massive massive media and online speculation, has there been anything official out of HQ? Even a Labor "announcement about an announcement"?
Other than a poorly thought out bit of social media from one person who only poured fuel on the flames?
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@mariner4life why would there be? there nothing to address....everything is fine.....
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@mariner4life I havent read back, but assuming we are talking the AB media manager one, lets not forget the spelling errors!
Professionalism!!
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@mariner4life said in Foster must go:
@Donsteppa said in Foster must go:
As a digression: under that model, Foster will still keep his job and apparently significant salary, propped up by a former Steamers coach and Tauranga Boys College Deputy Principal to save the day. And Sam Cane - a good Bay of Plenty lad, long time All Blacks servant, and Captain - will be the one thrown under the bus instead. So... @mariner4life ... if you don't feel some blue and yellow tinged outrage brewing by now...
oh i am on board.
The entire panel should have been cut
(sadly i can't keep Sam's job. he needs to do that himself if ever given the chance again)We need to take lessons from the disciplined, consistent messaging of the Auckland TSF crew. Akira could park himself in a deckchair on halfway for the full 80 minutes and they would still challenge our eyesight if we dared mention his workrate.
Cane spent three tests trying to do his job and also the work of our MIA tight five in contact. Meanwhile Ardie scores a try running at centre, gets an unintended break for most of the second test, and then gets all the kudos for 'carrying the team on his back' after the third test.
(Cane might well be cooked after a decade at the top, some serious injuries, and then attempting to carry his tight five, plus a missing colleague in the second test, but if he gets to take the fall while Foster carries on essentially as before...)
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@Donsteppa you sir have inspired me, and i am now ready to march on the capital
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I despise that Reason gimp but he wasn't wrong here:
New Zealand’s best active coaches are Scott Robertson, Dave Rennie, Wayne Smith, Leon MacDonald, Clayton McMillan and Joe Schmidt. I doubt if Foster would even make the top 20.
BTW what's Chris Boyd doing these days? He was great for the Canes. Much better Super record than Foster too but that's not saying much.
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@mariner4life said in Foster must go:
so, it is after midday on the Wednesday
In a week of massive massive media and online speculation, has there been anything official out of HQ? Even a Labor "announcement about an announcement"?
Other than a poorly thought out bit of social media from one person who only poured fuel on the flames?
Supposedly there's a Board meeting today?
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:
@mariner4life said in Foster must go:
so, it is after midday on the Wednesday
In a week of massive massive media and online speculation, has there been anything official out of HQ? Even a Labor "announcement about an announcement"?
Other than a poorly thought out bit of social media from one person who only poured fuel on the flames?
Supposedly there's a Board meeting today?
I thought there was a press conference at 3 or 330 this afternoon. That's the money shot if so
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@nzzp said in Foster must go:
@KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:
@mariner4life said in Foster must go:
so, it is after midday on the Wednesday
In a week of massive massive media and online speculation, has there been anything official out of HQ? Even a Labor "announcement about an announcement"?
Other than a poorly thought out bit of social media from one person who only poured fuel on the flames?
Supposedly there's a Board meeting today?
I thought there was a press conference at 3 or 330 this afternoon. That's the money shot if so
So, soon....