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    @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

    I'm guessing Razor has already been offered a sweet overseas gig.

    I'm sure he's been offered them for years. But he always seemed like he was happy to bide his time with the Saders until he could get the ABs job

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial we cant all be employment contract experts like you.

    I’m here to help

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    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    @Frank said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    @Frank said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

    Fuck. Really like to know why.

    Because he decides his own career not you?

    Thanks Captain Obvious.

    I'd like to know the reasons why he didn't want it.
    For example, perhaps he wants a longer contract and they are only willing to give him one until the World Cup.
    Perhaps they are not willing to give him as much control as he likes etc.

    Or maybe he doesn’t like being set up to fail. Or maybe he doesn’t see enough time to make the changes required….

    There you go. Answering my original question without being condescending.
    See, that wasn't so hard was it?

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    @canefan said in Foster must go:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

    I'm guessing Razor has already been offered a sweet overseas gig.

    I'm sure he's been offered them for years. But he always seemed like he was happy to bide his time with the Saders until he could get the ABs job

    I'll rephrase: accepted, not just offered.

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    @Frank said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    @Frank said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    @Frank said in Foster must go:

    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    TV3 reckons Razor is reluctant. Schmidt is the man and the assistants are goneburger

    Fuck. Really like to know why.

    Because he decides his own career not you?

    Thanks Captain Obvious.

    I'd like to know the reasons why he didn't want it.
    For example, perhaps he wants a longer contract and they are only willing to give him one until the World Cup.
    Perhaps they are not willing to give him as much control as he likes etc.

    Or maybe he doesn’t like being set up to fail. Or maybe he doesn’t see enough time to make the changes required….

    There you go. Answering my original question without being condescending.
    See, that wasn't so hard was it?

    It was

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    Just so we have facts not conjecture!

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    @canefan said in Foster must go:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster must go:

    I'm guessing Razor has already been offered a sweet overseas gig.

    I'm sure he's been offered them for years. But he always seemed like he was happy to bide his time with the Saders until he could get the ABs job

    the optics if he declines AB coaching role, stays with the Crusaders and thrives while the All Blacks fail will be horrific. Opportunities are not always at the right time, or with the conditions you want. Sometimes you just have to grab it and make the best of it. He's got leverage, needs to use it, and should get in and make a visible difference.

    I hate RWC cycles. FFS. The devaluing of tests is ongoing in the name of RWC glory that only one side can achieve.
    Also, the gods hate the RWC draws for the ABs 🙂

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    @Machpants said in Foster must go:

    Just so we have facts not conjecture!

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    Jeez Lozza was shit as well and he wasn’t even fat.

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    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    Jeez Lozza was shit as well and he wasn’t even fat.

    His tests were somehwat tough though. Three each against the World XV and the Lions, and a shedload of Australia, SA thrown in.

    Not excusing, but thre aren't many Tier 2 games in there to pad the stats.

    pick and go - Rugby Union Test & Super Rugby results and statistics
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    Foster is obviously very popular with the public as only 83 have signed 😂

    Sign the Petition

    Sign the Petition

    Have Ian Foster fired as All Blacks Coach

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    It’s in the NZR’s interests to talk up the cost of the severance deal while trying to convince the other candidates to drink from the poisoned chalice. Anyone can see why Robertson would want to tell them to f&^k themselves. They passed over him last time and now come crawling back when Foster has made a hash of everything a little over a year out from a World Cup. The expectations would be massive and would inevitably set him up for a fall, trashing his brand and cutting his market value when the ABs inevitably are knocked out in the semis or quarters next year.

    Schmidt, with less to prove and closer to the end of his career, might be willing to be the stopgap, keeping Robertson’s hands clean in the meantime. But I can’t really see that either.

    I think the most likely outcome is there will be a couple of human sacrifices in the coaching team. Once those heads are on sticks and more capable assistants are brought in, Foster keeps his job till the WC before being shown the door. Goodnight and good luck.

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    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    and more capable assistants are brought in

    What capable assistant wants to work with Foster now?

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    @KiwiMurph Someone who really needs the money

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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    and more capable assistants are brought in

    What capable assistant wants to work with Foster now?

    Schmidt seems to have got on board, can't be that bad surely?

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    @Crucial said in Foster must go:

    @Machpants said in Foster must go:

    Just so we have facts not conjecture!

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    Jeez Lozza was shit as well and he wasn’t even fat.

    Good chauffeur as well

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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    and more capable assistants are brought in

    What capable assistant wants to work with Foster now?

    I would. Oh, you specified capable...

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    @KiwiMurph said in Foster must go:

    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    and more capable assistants are brought in

    What capable assistant wants to work with Foster now?

    Has to be coaches that the players respect through previous records. Really not sure who.
    Might be some pissed off Super franchises as well

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    @Tim said in Foster must go:

    Newshub claimed that they've been informed by "sources" that sacking Foster would cost $3M to $4M.

    Is that Foster or the whole Foster team?

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    @Chris-B Not specified. Assistants not mentioned though.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Robertson was still keen on the AB job before Foster's contract was renewed before last year's EOYT wasn't he? I assume he would have taken the job back then.

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