Foster, Robertson etc
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@bayimports said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@mariner4life said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Hmmm
Shock departure: Another top rugby coach leaves before World Cup
His sudden resignation, seven months out from the World Cup, comes as a major surprise.
it was DESTINED!!!!! This has been coming since 2004
The messiah returns!..Joe Schmidt must have asked nicely
Wayne Ormond is dusting off his boots to fix the gaping hole we have at 6.
Fuck yes, it's on now fluffybunnies
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Rennie could be a good fit for Fiji although if Cotter's reasons are more around Fiji Rugby rather than as stated then it will be a difficult job to fill with quality.
Fiji have occasionally looked like really stepping up especially when they are allowed to draw on NH players. -
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@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Forgot that. Of course Oz would be in fear of losing to Fiji (again)
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@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
The Black Ferns need a new head coach, too (Whitney Hansen has declined the promotion, I think).
She has said she isn't ready yet (which is a little different as she did so before being asked).
The money is on Alan Bunting who appears to have ditched his Manawa job in anticipation.
Either he will be announced before Aupiki so everyone knows who they are trying to impress and he can do his job openly from the stands as a selector, or it will be kept under wraps to not distract from the comp.
I understand that there are a number of BF pro contract places becoming available (numbers are capped) so selection identification is going to be very important. I am picking that assistants stay they same although possibly Aupiki coaches will be being judged as well. -
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.
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@Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@KiwiMurph said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Crucial I believe Rennie is still contracted this year to RA on gardening leave.
Rennie is also out of the running for the AB job too (according to Newshub). He isn't going to return to SR first, NZR.
That is mind blowing if that is now a requirement to be AB coach.
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Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
Rugby: Dave Rennie not in contention for All Blacks head coach role after World Cup | Newshub
The former Chiefs mentor was fired as Wallabies coach last month.
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@Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:
Here is the article with the video from last night's story. NZR seem to like shifting the goal posts.
Rugby: Dave Rennie not in contention for All Blacks head coach role after World Cup | Newshub
The former Chiefs mentor was fired as Wallabies coach last month.
No it doesn't at all. There is nothing that says he is disqualified for applying just that they don't think he is good enough. And it is all conjecture/rumours
"But sources close to the situation have told Newshub Rennie will not be considered for the position, when Foster’s contract ends after the World Cup, although NZR would welcome him back into coaching, preferring a Super Rugby-type role first."
Nothing there says he's 'not allowed' especially since Joseph/Brown are mentioned as possibilities straight after. Just that he won't be considered, similar to me
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@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
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@Stargazer said in Foster, Robertson etc:
@Machpants I agree. It doesn't read to me as a requirement either, but I'm not sure it's because "they don't think he is good enough" (as you suggest). It could also have to do with the fact that he has just been the head coach of one of our main rivals and that they want some time in-between that gig and the ABs head coach gig.
Also agree that this comes from the rumour mill, nothing factual.
Possibly, maybe they don't want the look of getting Ozzies left overs - NZR are proud, unlike AR! But really if they were competent, that should mean jack shit, so I was being generous that they think he isn't good enough, rather than being so proud as not to consider an Ozzie reject
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@Machpants Or just possibly they have seen he wasn't too great at test level, so think he needs a bit more, or more importantly think mentally he would need a decent break. He's burnt the bridge by his record with Wallabies anyway, like it or not.
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@Machpants You're giving a negative interpretation to what I said and this is definitely not what I meant.
Even if he had completed his job with the Wallabies, that might have prevented him from getting the job because he has just coached one of our main rivals. With Joseph you don't get that, because Japan isn't a traditional rival. It might just be a timing thing.
Anyway, it's all speculation.
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@Nepia said in Foster, Robertson etc:
NZR should lend Razor to Fiji for the year, he can get some international and RWC experience all in one go before taking over the ABs next year.
NZR won't hire them on the basis that he didn't achieve a 100% record with Fiji in 2023.
Great coach!
