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  • canefanC Online
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    @MrDenmore said in Foster must go:

    From the perspective of someone who works in corporate communications, the announcement of a ‘full inquiry’ is a classic playing-for-time device while lawyers negotiate a contract exit. My bet is that he’s gone but it’s the manner of his going that is being discussed.

    I hope so. He can't go on the SA trip. We need a hard reset now. Razor is the benchmark for rugby success right now. If he can be persuaded to take Schmidt along as an advisor then great. This is a huge crisis in NZ rugby right now, and desperate times call for desperate measures

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    @MN5 said in Foster must go:

    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

    I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

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    @Snowy said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 said in Foster must go:

    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

    I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

    Welcome back mate

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    @canefan said in Foster must go:

    @Snowy said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 said in Foster must go:

    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

    I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

    Welcome back mate

    Thanks but not really back. Just checked in to see the wreckage.

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    @Snowy said in Foster must go:

    @canefan said in Foster must go:

    @Snowy said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 said in Foster must go:

    @BartMan said in Foster must go:

    @MN5 that was the only good thing to.cpmw.out of the test.

    The fact this result brings @BartMan out if hibernation says it all.

    Who next, @Red-Beard ? Any others ?

    I have just made room for Foster in the basement.

    Welcome back mate

    Thanks but not really back. Just checked in to see the wreckage.

    Hope you are well anyway. Or at least not totally deranged

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    @Tim said in Foster must go:

    'Not acceptable': NZ Rugby speak out after home series defeat

    New Zealand Rugby boss Mark Robinson has labelled the All Blacks' first home series defeat in 27 years unacceptable and says work will begin immediately with head coach Ian Foster to grasp how the team reached this position.

    Robinson's statement came after the All Blacks cancelled a scheduled media conference on Sunday.

    One day after the 32-22 third test loss to Ireland in Wellington consigned the All Blacks to their first home series defeat since 1994, a coach was scheduled to front media at their team hotel.

    When media arrived, however, they were eventually told the stand-up had been cancelled.

    Attempting to address widespread speculation and pressure on Foster and his All Blacks coaching team, Robinson suggested he would be involved in meeting with the team before their two-test tour of South Africa begins on August 7.

    "Congratulations to the Irish team for their well-deserved win last night but clearly the performance across the series for the All Blacks was not acceptable as we know they have reflected. We all know there is a huge amount of work to do," Robinson said.

    "Our focus now is to work with Ian and his team to understand thoroughly in advance of the Rugby Championship what is needed to improve performance and where to from here. We will begin this work immediately."

    Unless foster and his team, are gone before the RC, then this result is obviously acceptable, because keeping that bunch in employment is accepting it!

    It's gotta be fast, so I'm worried one of the assistants will take over as caretaker even ifis he does go (he won't) that'll be even worse!

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    Do you think Razor would want this team now? I wonder if he would prefer to take the gig after the WC?

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    @chimoaus said in Foster must go:

    Do you think Razor would want this team now? I wonder if he would prefer to take the gig after the WC?

    100% he would want it.

    He'll back himself to turn it around and keep going after the WC.

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    @chimoaus said in Foster must go:

    Do you think Razor would want this team now? I wonder if he would prefer to take the gig after the WC?

    If he takes over now and wins the RWC it would be the greatest AB coach achievement ever. That’s tempting!

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    @Machpants Schmidt is there, has head coach experience, he could be interim until they negotiate with Razor, who we know is likely only in if he is running the ship.

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    @akan004 maybe a positive unintended consequence if they look on and think this is a shit show...that said, the deal was only ratified a month or so back, so given the magnitude it is likely still in the processing phase...

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    What’s sad is all this could be avoided. They basically signalled to every and all other NZ coaches (rennie, Joseph etc etc etc) that they woujd be appointing foster, gave Robertson an interview for the form…and then appointed a guy whose CV shows zero zilch nada success as head coach.

    We need a complete and total break with the Henry-Hansen era.

    I think the players have 100% the support of the public, everyone can see that foster is a busted flush. There is no shame losing narrowly to Ireland, france etc (especially in Paris or Dublin), but no obvious gameplan leading to fairly comprehensive defeats in nZ is just not acceptable.

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

    @Machpants Schmidt is there, has head coach experience, he could be interim until they negotiate with Razor, who we know is likely only in if he is running the ship.

    He doesn't want to do it, so it's not an option. He'd have to commit, not something he wants.

    If Erasmus can turn a team around, in much worse state than the ABs, razor would have no problem

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster must go:

    @Machpants Schmidt is there, has head coach experience, he could be interim until they negotiate with Razor, who we know is likely only in if he is running the ship.

    Razor is the biggest example of rugby coaching excellence most of these players know below test level. He has either coached these boys to titles or beaten the brakes of the rest. It's his time.

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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by
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    @chimoaus Look at the quick improvements the Black Ferns have made since they changed coaches earlier this year. It may not be enough for the women's World Cup this year, but the improvements are undeniable. Razor would have more time with the ABs. Even if the ABs don't win the 2023 RWC, he will be able to improve their performance enough to avoid a complete embarrassement. We may lose to France, but it may be a close contest instead of an annihilation.

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    Has anyone checked the airports, yet? Has Razor already returned from Fiji?

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    #250

    The Foster era for is summed up by the selection of Karl. The guy is far from a lock in the 23 let alone the starting XV. And he’s going overseas. “We think he is our best LH scrummager”.

    If Roberson takes over there will be some nervous props in the current squad and some expectant ones outside it.

    (Except for Karl - he’s going overseas)

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    @Stargazer said in Will Foster go?:

    Has anyone checked the airports, yet? Has Razor already returned from Fiji?

    Yes, last week. I saw him go

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by taniwharugby
    #252

    @Machpants I did say he could do it while they negotiated with Razor, I am sure he'd be ok with that (he did it while Fozzie had Covid...) given if Razor was offered it he'd need to select TRC squad, so it wouldnt be a long process...that is assuming, things change.

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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by Billsy111
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    @Billy-Tell I'm totally with you. Foster, Plumtree, and McLeod all need to be gone. Nothing changed tactically between the 2nd and 3rd tests. Once again found out by a rushing defence, which everybody knew Ireland would use. Absolutely zero in the way of creativity. Our only tactics in the backline appeared to be crash the middle or kick pass. Ireland were fantastic, but we all knew the Northern hemisphere teams were catching up and fast, but we've done nothing to stay ahead of the pack. It's time for Schmidt, Robertson,and if they can get him Gatland. Let them bring in others if the want.

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