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    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    We had an amazing run. Between 2008 and 2018 we were the best team by miles. But like all good dynasties eventually they crumble as the quality of leadership declines. But we will rise anew from the ashes, we always do

    Did you steal that from the Canes changing room?

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    Hey Fozzie

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    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Foster sounds about as inspiring as a Funeral Director.

    but less re-hearsed.

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    On the Ardie sub who should they have picked to go off instead? They needed to take someone off for the scrum. Probably LF and play without a winger for the match?

    The standard move is to go without a loosie. I think Dalton was already off for the previous YC for that reason

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Let's hope for some actual media scrutiny this week. A good start:

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Ireland has done us a favour.
    Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
    It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

    We have no desire to play the territory game

    Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

    Richie will be better next time.

    Wasn't that what was said last time?

    He's great at SR level, good when the AB's are in charge, has skills to burn but just doesn't seem able to take the final step.

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    @Stargazer Fozzie will retire as the coach that has broken the most records. He will probably think that is proof of just how good he was.

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    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

    It's team tactics. Has to be

    Is Ian Foster actually Leigh Hart in disguise?

    His attempts at coaching sure are funny

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    ‘The guys hung in there and did really well’

    What the actual fuck Foster ? Are you hearing what you’re saying ?

    Well it all makes sense if Foster was expecting to lose by more!

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Out of curiosity are the midfield bombs where we gift possession to the opposite team a tactic or does BB and AS really think it's a good idea?

    It's team tactics. Has to be

    Is Ian Foster actually Leigh Hart in disguise?

    His attempts at coaching sure are funny

    Just like with Hart, I'm not amused

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    On the Ardie sub who should they have picked to go off instead? They needed to take someone off for the scrum. Probably LF and play without a winger for the match?

    The standard move is to go without a loosie. I think Dalton was already off for the previous YC for that reason

    I wondered at the time whether it was one of those scenarios that they hadn't considered, so the "take a loosie off" button just got automatically pushed a second time.

    Seems like a difficult situation either way, but in hindsight they probably should have dragged LF and had Ardie still available and able to range wider at times...

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    I wonder if Hansen is a sick bastard and hated Fozzie the entire time and vouched for him just so he could watch him fail. Makes you question Hansens ability if he thought Fozzie could actually coach.

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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    I wonder if Hansen is a sick bastard and hated Fozzie the entire time and vouched for him just so he could watch him fail. Makes you question Hansens ability if he thought Fozzie could actually coach.

    in fairness, Wayne Smith rated him too Mch as it pains me to say it

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    I wonder if Hansen is a sick bastard and hated Fozzie the entire time and vouched for him just so he could watch him fail. Makes you question Hansens ability if he thought Fozzie could actually coach.

    in fairness, Wayne Smith rated him too Mch as it pains me to say it

    I could see Fozzie being good if he had world class assistants. He doesn’t.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew Bower, Paps or Smith to captain.

    That would have been an option if we had won today but we didn't. They'll stick with Sam as incumbent captain. He'll know he had a poor game so don't expect that again.

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    If we become a league country, we could watch our best players every week in the same premier comp.

    I'm not even a big league fan but the writing is on the wall. It's not even about Foster anymore, he's just the bacteria that flourishes in a weakened immune system. We can't keep all our best players, can't organise a decent competition...Foster is the natural reflection of the state of the game.

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    I wonder if Hansen is a sick bastard and hated Fozzie the entire time and vouched for him just so he could watch him fail. Makes you question Hansens ability if he thought Fozzie could actually coach.

    in fairness, Wayne Smith rated him too Mch as it pains me to say it

    In reality what else are they going to say in public. We pulled Fozzie into the environment to help the Chiefs and put him out to pasture for a few years.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    I wonder if Hansen is a sick bastard and hated Fozzie the entire time and vouched for him just so he could watch him fail. Makes you question Hansens ability if he thought Fozzie could actually coach.

    in fairness, Wayne Smith rated him too Mch as it pains me to say it

    I could see Fozzie being good if he had world class assistants. He doesn’t.

    Isn't that his choice?

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  • K Offline
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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Canerbry said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    Ireland has done us a favour.
    Test rugby has always been about the team that makes the less mistakes wins. As a person who experienced test rugby in the 70s (can't remember much to be honest), the 80s, 90s up to now, the rugby that the ABs play now doesn't feel like test rugby. There is a lack of territorial awareness which means a lack of pragmatic kicking, they invite chaos near their line which more often than not has negative results, etc, etc.
    It is hard to explain but in the Foster era, they give it up too easily.

    We have no desire to play the territory game

    Because our 10 has a shit territory game.

    Richie will be better next time.

    Wasn't that what was said last time?

    He's great at SR level, good when the AB's are in charge, has skills to burn but just doesn't seem able to take the final step.

    I thought he was good. Challenged the line, through a great cut out pass to PGS who dropped it…. What did you think he did wrong?

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    @hydro11 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 2nd Test:

    If Ofa was replaced, we would have to go down to 13.

    No, Bower could have stayed on and moved to TH in the 2nd half when Ross came on.

    Didn’t the scrums go uncontested when Ross came on and Ardie went off?

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