Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match
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@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.
I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow
Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zipYeah that's totally a sensible use of stats
Undeniable though.
TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
Scoreboard says otherwise.Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!
You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
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@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Crucial said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.
I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow
Scoreboard says otherwise.
Weber on = 32
TJ = zipYeah that's totally a sensible use of stats
Undeniable though.
TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow -
Scoreboard says otherwise.Totally deniable, scoreboard says score not nines speed at the ruck!
You’d think that a noticeable improvement at halfback with make the backs function better yet they failed to score when TJ came in.
Isn’t that the point of wanting a better halfback?
Of course there’s other factors.There's only one factor to your teams performance. Whether foster is coach or not 😜
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@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
the Maori set piece held up well.
Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.
I think you'll say the same thing after Saturday
That Ireland attack pattern was used to good effect and it isn’t one we are used to defending.
3 close in dummy runners in a line with the ball either skipping them or going right behind to a hole runner was easy metres for Ireland. -
@Stag said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
Aki playing tonight means he definitely won’t be starting in the test, right?
I’d say it’s very unlikely unless there are injuries between now and Saturday.
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@taniwharugby said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
the Maori set piece held up well.
Love the shape and connection of the Irish defence though, holds up well for several phases, but seems to struggle with the deeper stuff, in contrast our defence looks unstructured and disorganised at times, plenty of gaps for the Irish to make huge yards off.
Just got on from game, enjoyed it, things got messy in second half though.
You right Taniwha, Irish had a great defensive set up from set piece and but looked a little lost on when Maori had phase ball and attacked on left side. But all in all not bad for first up game by both teams. -
Top display from 10 to 40 minutes. Enjoyed both Sullivans a lot and thought Weber played a composed intelligent game in tough conditions to lead the way. Dickson Harmon Suafoa and Norris showed impact in the forwards.
Shame we lost a bit of poise in second half. Bench was mediocre.
Coombes and Timoney looked very good. But the front row could be a worry for Ireland now with so many injuries. -
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@Yeetyaah only a Chiefs fan would have both Weber and Aki in their multi 😉
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@ACT-Crusader yeah had faith in Aki scoring at the homecoming and Spud loves a dart at the line.
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Just got back from the game.
A couple of general comments looking ahead to the test:
(1) You can see the line speed Ireland bring to defence, but they were often getting penalised (i.e., no.5) for shooting out too early.
(2) Speed of passing from the halfbacks will be so important for the ABs. Weber was quicker but erratic with his passing. TJP was so slow the receiver had little time to catch the ball without an Irish player in their face. It's very obvious why neither are in the ABs.
(3) When Ireland get their short passing game going combined with quick ruck ball they will test the AB defence. -
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Good win by the Maori All Blacks tonight.
I was particulally impressed with the Sullivan brothers, I feel like it's a question of when, not if they will be All Black's in the future. Their ability to cover multiple positions will work in their favour aswell going forward.
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Excellent watch.
In the conditions some beautiful rugby.
Zarn outstanding but nearly everyone played well. Was especially impressed by Suafoa and IWL.
T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.
I respect Perenara but i'm glad he's not in the ABs.
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Love the optimism by the Irish mirror.
Full time! All Blacks 32-17 Ireland
It's full time in Hamilton and that will have been tough to watch for Andy Farrell.The damange was done in the first half ans to Ireland's credit kept their opponents scoreless in the second half.
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@KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.
I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.
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@Machpants said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@ACT-Crusader said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Machpants Weber actually had us moving forward and got the ball out quicker than I expect from him.
I totally disagree, he was a handbrake. TJ was a noticeable improvement when he came on. Weber was so slow
I can understand the criticism of Weber but if anyone is a handbrake it's TJ. His service is ponderous - he's simply not a good clearer of the ball - everything is so laboured.
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@Nepia said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
Oh, and Aaron Cruden was sitting a few rows behind me.
Did he look match fit?
Maybe not so much after those beers.
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@Bovidae said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
@KiwiMurph said in Maori All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Match:
T Williams looks like a future AB if he can kick on.
I thought that Norris was one of the best forwards. His ball-handling/carrying was great in difficult conditions, and his side of the scrum was good. Lomax was terrible, in comparison.
The scrum where we shunted them back and the ball went out looked to be all Norris. You see his opposite almost bring him down then he brings it back up and stormed through him on the second shove.
