All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.
We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.
At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?
Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.
So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.
People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.
Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.
We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.
At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?
Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.
So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.
People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.
Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.
The fac that he's twice been the ABs Player's Player of the year means I call bollox. I have my biases, as do we all, but the All Blacks players themselves have a pretty good fucking idea of who is doing the mahi for the team. I do agree that playing him is 8 (fine plonking him on the back of the scrum on attack) is stupid. The key point is the coaches are bunch of pussies who can't grip it and select a decent team. So the fanny about and just put the 'best palyers' where ever they could possibly fit
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Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?
I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.
We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.
At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?
Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.
So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.
People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.
Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.
The fac that he's twice been the ABs Player's Player of the year means I call bollox. I have my biases, as do we all, but the All Blacks players themselves have a pretty good fucking idea of who is doing the mahi for the team. I do agree that playing him is 8 (fine plonking him on the back of the scrum on attack) is stupid. The key point is the coaches are bunch of pussies who can't grip it and select a decent team. So the fanny about and just put the 'best palyers' where ever they could possibly fit
sam winders was silverferns players player last year and look were she is now
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.
We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.
At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?
Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.
So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.
People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.
Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.
You do know the world xv (the only one I use as it is a World Rugby one) is picked by the a panel including Richie McCaw, Terry Dustoir,, Joe Smit, Ugo Moyne etc etc, I know I know how would these lot know more about what makes a good international rugby player than those who who inhabit forums etc., but there you go they just look at a few highlights and pick team no doubt.
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@Ludraman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?
I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.
Easy. Henshaw at 12 has the runs on the board over Tupaea. Also Porter and Furlong at prop.
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@Ludraman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Question for you Kiwis. Who, if any of the Irish would ye take in an AB team?
I'm nervous about this first test... I just hope it's a close game and we don't get pumped.
Furlong and Porter. Also the injured Leinster hooker Kelleher is a good player. Doris was very good vs the ABs last year but he’s been less impressive this year. Henshaw is a very good player. I rate the FB Keenan but probably not enough on attack. I think Ryan after a good first season has faded a bit.
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I’ll wait and see how things pan out but as I’ve posted a few times not convinced by our props in the squad. The loose forwards are a mystery, not convinced PGS can post error-free test match footy. Grace has had a fantastic end to the season and is a genuine line out option like Read before him. Same can not be said of players like Savea. Hope Leicester goes well as I have doubts too.
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If it's wet and tight (ooh err missus) I'd take sexcockwomble over Beaudy, but I think the weather is ok.
I'd take one of their loosies over Barrett, anyone of them. I'd be tempted with Bierne instead of BBBR, unless Brodie really steps it back to the good old days
O'Aki over Ennor, Healy instead of Angus, Murray not Christie
South some of those above, is coming upto half the 23
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Interesting to hear your opinions. I think as an Irishman I'd say we only have the edge in the starting props (reserve front row is a big step down), Josh Van Der Flier and Henshaw. I'd give it to the All Blacks in every other position.
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Gotta say I love test day, makes doing my chores and other things easier knowing I have a game to look forward to tonight. I hope you all enjoy your Saturday and get your jobs done so you can enjoy the rugby guilt free.
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Blue sky, warm weather, sun out - an advertiseent for afternoon rugby.
Looking forward to this. Hopefully we're all wrong, Retallick and Whitelock step back up physically, ScoBa is awesome at 6, the backs unlock the rush defence and we dont get compromised in the linout. Fingers crossed!
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An interesting interview with O'Gara re tonight's test. He claims SH team follow the man on D whereas Ireland and the North follow the ball. He believes with enough bodies in motion NZ defensive players get confused and allow space and opportunity.
He also made reference that the NZ backline has not got a lot of minutes together and if Ireland take away time and space it should be interesting.
He also talked about players needing minutes in the position they play in test matches, he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
This conversation is driving me fucking nuts.
We're playing a lock at 6 to hopefully make up for the fact that we are playing an impact 7 at 8.
At what point are the selectors going to man up and make a choice that it would be better for AB rugby to lose Ardie Savea, so that we could get some fucking balance?
Fuck him if he leaves because he has to play off the bench. We'd be better off.
So if Ardie is a 7 playing at 8, why is he picked in world VXs at 8, why does he look to be the first player named in any super team while playing at 8? He is a pretty capable 8, and because he can also play 7 doesn't stop him being a bloody good 8. Who has said he will bugger off if he is on bench, that is just making shit up and seemingly trying to make Ardie look like an arsehole.
People pick World XVs based in highlight reels. Just watch him play and how he never shifts bodies at rucks. Always leans or one out. Isn't tall enough to be a good option for lineputs.
Those are considerable gaps to be overcome in a loose forward trio.
Or based on sympathy.
Sergio Parisse got picked in lots of them despite over 100 test losses.
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Of course i hope we win. As others have said the manner of the result will be as important
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.
Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.
Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear
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@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.
Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear
Even got her silver fern back drop
Good wife
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
I think he was referencing the Irish 10 in the Maori game who plays 12 for his club. But his comments are valid for SB also.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@nzzp said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
he said you shouldn't be playing a different position for your club and expecting to have the skills for that position come test time.
have to think that is aimed specifically at the SB move, and given he worked with SB when he was at the 'saders, quite a telling comment?
But hey hope SB proves all the doubters wrong!
Hope so, hope he has a Kaino like match.
Lol fuck and I hope Monica Belucci turns up on my doorstep in her underwear
Even got her silver fern back drop
Good wife
Woof!!
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
He claims SH team follow the man on D whereas Ireland and the North follow the ball. He believes with enough bodies in motion NZ defensive players get confused and allow space and opportunity.
Sounds like we are a bunch of simpletons.-lol
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Weather still good over there?
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At the ground heading into the lounge.
Glorious, feels like early autumn. Cool but dry
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Gotta say I love test day, makes doing my chores and other things easier knowing I have a game to look forward to tonight. I hope you all enjoy your Saturday and get your jobs done so you can enjoy the rugby guilt free.
Same to you mate. Wife is out at her friend's wedding which I somehow managed to get out of, so it's me and my 3 boys at home for a boys night in. I've had ribs in the slow cooker all day, to be served with onion rings, chips and beer. Can't wait for the first test of the year, bring it on!
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@Ludraman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Interesting to hear your opinions. I think as an Irishman I'd say we only have the edge in the starting props (reserve front row is a big step down), Josh Van Der Flier and Henshaw. I'd give it to the All Blacks in every other position.
And if you're right, that really speaks to how poorly coached our team is
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Had a brisket in smoking for a few hours. Dinner between tests
I've started drinking so I can get nice and ranty on here during the game
Happy first test day everyone
Carn the fucking All Blacks!!
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Had a brisket in smoking for a few hours. Dinner between tests
I've started drinking so I can get nice and ranty on here during the game
Happy first test day everyone
Carn the fucking All Blacks!!
I'll probably take one of my wife's anti-anxiety pills 20 minutes prior to kick-off (I'm not kidding)
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
I've started drinking so I can get nice and ranty on here during the game
Like you need the drink to get ranty, it's just a bonus.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
I've started drinking so I can get nice and ranty on here during the game
Like you need the drink to get ranty, it's just a bonus.
To quote one of the better Sportsbet ads
Fair point mate
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
I've started drinking so I can get nice and ranty on here during the game
Like you need the drink to get ranty, it's just a bonus.
Though the most fun I ever had was after the Perth debacle when I was pretty pissed and went right the fuck off.
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Okay, get your predictions in before kick-off.
Get your bets in on the rugby dark-web.
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ABs by 10
Reece first try scorer
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ABs by 6. Me shitting myself on the edge of the chair as Ireland attack in the dying moments.
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ABs by 7.
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