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    @KiwiMurph cheers Mate!

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    I can’t wait to see Fozzies new plan to beat the rushing defense.
    Or am I going to be bitterly disappointed again by the smarts of the coaching team.

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    @Chris To be fair, in the end Hansen never figured it ou either. For me, aside from tactics, we need more ball runners who can challenge the line, ie more ball running forwards, at least one big midfielder who runs hard, think Nonu, and and a powerful left wing, Leister or Caleb in the team . Also, we need our 10 to also run on to the ball, rather than deep and shovel it on.

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    @The-Docter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    First post here on SF btw. So far not ideal preparation but hopefully the situation can galvanise us. Given the forwards at this stage are in effected, I would go with a backline of;

    1. A Smith
    2. B Barrett
    3. C Clarke
    4. Q Tupaea
    5. R Ioane
    6. S Reece
    7. J Barrett

    Bench:
    Fakatava, M’unga, Fainga’anuku

    Pretty decent and plenty of go forward

    That's what I think too.

    Sadly it's the loose forward mix, lock impact, and props that are the problem!

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    With the build up, I'd be very tempted to give RTS the start, with Barrett and Roane either side of him, and Clarke on one wing. Relying on some Super combinations could be one way of getting around the disruptions.

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    @gt12 I understand your logic, but I think we need to also consider experience. Quinn will have benefited from EOT last year. He also gives us more of a direct option. Unfortunately neither have a kicking game.

    This is where Jordie needs to step up and take pressure off his older brother.

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    @The-Docter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris To be fair, in the end Hansen never figured it ou either. For me, aside from tactics, we need more ball runners who can challenge the line, ie more ball running forwards, at least one big midfielder who runs hard, think Nonu, and and a powerful left wing, Leister or Caleb in the team . Also, we need our 10 to also run on to the ball, rather than deep and shovel it on.

    Yep we have discussed all those things on here for a couple of years now.
    Nothing changes with Foster except the personal from week to week in the team.
    Repeating patterns of shit coaching through lack of tactics and any idea of a game plan is consistent though.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    With the build up, I'd be very tempted to give RTS the start, with Barrett and Roane either side of him, and Clarke on one wing. Relying on some Super combinations could be one way of getting around the disruptions.

    Would not be a bad idea, Consistency would be good for the first test of the year,as we have pointed out on the fern Tupaea has some defensive weakness which has been shown up this season.

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    @Chris gee Chris doesn’t it remind you how good Nonu and Kaino were?

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    @The-Docter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris gee Chris doesn’t it remind you how good Nonu and Kaino were?

    Or how good Henry was as a coach or Razor is now.

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    @Chris can’t disagree

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    @Chris though you can coach defence. You can’t coach a guy to break the line if he doesn’t have the attributes.

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    @The-Docter do we think Joe Schmidt coming in might help us?

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @The-Docter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    First post here on SF btw. So far not ideal preparation but hopefully the situation can galvanise us. Given the forwards at this stage are in effected, I would go with a backline of;

    1. A Smith
    2. B Barrett
    3. C Clarke
    4. Q Tupaea
    5. R Ioane
    6. S Reece
    7. J Barrett

    Bench:
    Fakatava, M’unga, Fainga’anuku

    Pretty decent and plenty of go forward

    That's what I think too.

    Sadly it's the loose forward mix, lock impact, and props that are the problem!

    Agreed. Close running at angles to the ruck, hard quick cleans and Buggy passing to players moving forward at gaps.

    Some better field kicking would help too.

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    @antipodean totally agree

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    @antipodean do they throw a wild card in there with PGS?

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    @antipodean btw, I’m a big A Smith fan, but his box and clearing kick game for Highlanders and ABs last couple of seasons has been poor

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    @The-Docter said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris though you can coach defence. You can’t coach a guy to break the line if he doesn’t have the attributes.

    No but you can coach how to make space by manipulating the defense to get over the advantage line and create space outside the runners.

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    @Chris I think we both agree. But Reiko is not a punch the line guy. So who’s going to take that part? For me then Caleb Clark sure, and then who else in the backs?

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    Will Jordan won’t be the last to go down with covid in the camp.
    The team that runs on the field Saturday may differ from the team named on Thursday.

    Is that when the team is named? Thanks, I was about to ask.

    Yes Named on Thursday.

    You do know don't you?

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