Hurricanes 2023
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The fact Jason Holland still mentions Prinsep in the below article is a massive worry. WTF does Holland even see in that guy? He's just so damn mediocre, a bit like Holland's selections last year.
Holland quotes: "Pete's going well, Brayden [Iose], Devan [Flanders], you've still got your Reed Prinseps your Ardie Saveas and your Du'Plessis Kirifis and your TK Howdens.
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@Canes4life
Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.Is delany injured
I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life
Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.Is delany injured
I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year
Both Delany and Howden are better than Prinsep. Delany thoroughly outplayed Prinsep in the NPC final, plus I would also have Flanders shift to 6 before selecting Prinsep.
You're right though, Prinsep seems like Holland's teachers pet. Hopefully they both move on at season's end.
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From the below post, Ruben Love will miss the first two rounds of Super Rugby with a groin strain. I assume the Hurricanes will start Moorby at 15.
Jordie Barrett on move to 12 at Canes: 'I'm trying to evolve game'
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
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Canes need to do more updates on all injured or unavailable players
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
Canes need to do more updates on all injured or unavailable players
Yeah a bit average on the updates tbh.
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Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
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@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
Yawn.
His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet. -
@Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:
@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
Yawn.
His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!
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@Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:
@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
Yawn.
His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!
It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:
@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
Yawn.
His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!
It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.
I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position. That’s a fair call IMO. He was also still committed to some other options at 12 in his plans and had to play that out. RTS hasn’t worked out (for whatever reasons) but you don’t select the guy then throw the option away without trying it just because your best fullback has played a handful of average (albeit with signs) games at 12.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life
Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.Is delany injured
I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year
Both Delany and Howden are better than Prinsep. Delany thoroughly outplayed Prinsep in the NPC final, plus I would also have Flanders shift to 6 before selecting Prinsep.
You're right though, Prinsep seems like Holland's teachers pet. Hopefully they both move on at season's end.
I was so happy when Prinsep got subbed on for Cant in the NPC final. Of course, he ends up spilling the ball.
My favourite player when he's on the other team.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:
@kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:
Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.
"fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."
The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.
Yawn.
His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!
It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.
Yep so did a certain Christian Cullen. He was a centre through school, club and when he first played rep rugby in the mighty Nua. Not saying anything right or wrong, just having a smile about it.
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Cool story on Caleb Delany, (similar to Devan Flanders) I'm hoping he has a big year in black and yellow.
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An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron
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