Hurricanes 2023
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@gt12 the biggest problem for the Canes is the whole Ardie at 8 thing, we’ve got three outstanding 8s (Flanders, Iose, Laubsher) coming through the system but because we keep playing Ardie there means they will probably all F off at some point. The Canes would be so much stronger playing Ardie where he truely belongs in the 7 jersey but I doubt Holland will ever learn.
And at least from my armchair Kirifi’s form fell off a cliff this season. He was pretty good last year but his impact was down.
Ardie’s situation is not dissimilar to Rodders. Rodders was an openside when he started out. I seem to recall that the Canes moved him to number 8 because of Harding who was a quality openside. Rodders basically played that 7.5 role with 8 on his back.
Got selected as a number 8 for the ABs by Mitchell, got monstered by England in 03 and was basically behind Jerry as the preferred 8. But to his credit he continued to work on his game, put on a bit of muscle and then was back in the side under Henry and the rest is history.
I still hold hope that Savea could be Rodders II - he has the workrate and drive.
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@ACT-Crusader I feel Ardie is best suited at 7 for the Canes because of the quality we have coming through at 8. We have Devan Flanders, Brayden Iose and Tyler Laubscher who are all young, up and coming number 8s who would complement Ardie nicely if he moved back to 7.
Having Ardie at 8 means we have to fit in Kirifi/Gibson which is a drop in quality when you compare them to the no 8s I've mentioned above.
Ideally a loose trio of 6. Howden 7. Savea and 8. Flanders would be a nice balance, and then having either Brayden Iose or Tyler Laubscher off the bench would be ideal.
Hurricanes success going forward will be determined by how they manage some of their combinations.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@gt12 the biggest problem for the Canes is the whole Ardie at 8 thing, we’ve got three outstanding 8s (Flanders, Iose, Laubsher) coming through the system but because we keep playing Ardie there means they will probably all F off at some point. The Canes would be so much stronger playing Ardie where he truely belongs in the 7 jersey but I doubt Holland will ever learn.
And at least from my armchair Kirifi’s form fell off a cliff this season. He was pretty good last year but his impact was down.
Ardie’s situation is not dissimilar to Rodders. Rodders was an openside when he started out. I seem to recall that the Canes moved him to number 8 because of Harding who was a quality openside. Rodders basically played that 7.5 role with 8 on his back.
Got selected as a number 8 for the ABs by Mitchell, got monstered by England in 03 and was basically behind Jerry as the preferred 8. But to his credit he continued to work on his game, put on a bit of muscle and then was back in the side under Henry and the rest is history.
I still hold hope that Savea could be Rodders II - he has the workrate and drive.
He’s played 59 tests to Rodders 62…..he’d better hurry.
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Rodders was never a ruck inspector either
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:
@FakatavaAllBlack
Fantastic, can we add Prinsep, J Savea, Blackwell, Kirifi and Holland himself to that list? It will be interesting who gets that third hooker spot.
I thought O'Reilly went well when he played
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger chiefs after Brett Cameron? wouldn't imagine so since they have Ioane, Gatland, Reihana, Trask & D Mac
Agree. But sure the article said Chiefs . Maybe it was Highlanders and Canes. That would make more sense
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@Winger I think I remember it was the Highlanders and Canes. I know Brett Cameron and J Barrett are good mates, so if that signing keeps Barrett in Wellington, then I'm all for it, even though I think Aiden Morgan's our ten moving forward.
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@mariner4life said in Hurricanes 2023:
Rodders was never a ruck inspector either
That’s what I hope Ardie can develop. Rodders created many opportunities for McCaw and others with his work at the ruck.
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger chiefs after Brett Cameron? wouldn't imagine so since they have Ioane, Gatland, Reihana, Trask & D Mac
Agree. But sure the article said Chiefs . Maybe it was Highlanders and Canes. That would make more sense
Cool I wouldn't mind Cameron at the Chiefs, got a source at all for that article?
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@Yeetyaah said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:
@FakatavaAllBlack said in Hurricanes 2023:
@Winger chiefs after Brett Cameron? wouldn't imagine so since they have Ioane, Gatland, Reihana, Trask & D Mac
Agree. But sure the article said Chiefs . Maybe it was Highlanders and Canes. That would make more sense
Cool I wouldn't mind Cameron at the Chiefs, got a source at all for that article?
We don't need him, Dmac at 10, re-sign Falcon or bring in McClutchie, and bring up Reihana. None of that will happen though as we apparently have Joane for two more fucking years...
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@Gunner said in Hurricanes 2023:
I swear this thread a copy and paste of a Blues thread for the last 2 decades, just with names swapped out.
Lol I hope this chat doesn’t last 2 decades.
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