All Blacks 2022
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I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:
1 Moody
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi
4 Barrett
5 Retallick (still there on reputation)Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.
Reserves might be something like:
Taylor
Hodgman
Laulala
Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role) -
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
I'm guessing that the starting tight five for this year is firming up. I can see it being the following:
1 Moody
2 Taukei'aho
3 Tu'ungafasi
4 Barrett
5 Retallick (still there on reputation)Really hoping that one lock will emerge from the pack to replace Retallick, who is purely in the squad on reputation. Not convinced by Vaa'i. Lord looks to have the goods, but is probably a year away. Plenty of time for more dynamic loose heads like Hodgman, de Groot, and Norris would be great. I'm assuming that Coles won't make it to 2023. Aumua is on the fringe, and hasn't kicked on. Lomax is middling, and Laulala needs to improve his impact. Tight head is pretty bare. Would be worth giving Newell a couple of games.
Reserves might be something like:
Taylor
Hodgman
Laulala
Vaa'i (Whitelock to rotate with Retallick in the starting role)Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job. Plenty of options in most positions. Very few stand out as head and shoulders better.
I'll take your Whitelock bait on behalf of the Cantabs though. Would probably sneak him in in front of BBR (needs to earn his third B back).
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
Picking the top XV is a pretty hard job.
Nine and ten are firmly settled (Smith and Barrett). Midfield and loose forward players are the hardest to select. Really hope Jordie Barrett can kick on at 12.
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Loose forward pool:
Cane
Papalii
Savea
Ioane
Sotutu
Blackadder
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Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.
Certainties:
Ioane
ALB(injured?)12 options:
Tupaea
Havili
RTS
J Barrett
Goodhue
(Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)13 options:
Fainga'anuku
Goodhue
(PUJ needs more game time to be considered)We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:
9 Smith
10 B Barrett
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Reece
15 Jordan -
@tim if have the topXV from 7 out as
Cane, savea, Smith, Barrett, Ioane, Barrett, alb, Reece, Jordan. ?, Mounga, and Leicester on the bench backs.
Clark hasn't shown enough yet this year, imo. But happy to see a look at yours!
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@machpants That is what I am seeing at the moment. Mounga really needs to get his mojo back though. We need someone who can manage the end of the game and that includes kicking for territory (example Steyn in the 2nd test vs ABs).
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Midfield is going to be really interesting, especially with Jordie Barrett throwing his hat into the ring. Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence. Goodhue is overcoming his second combination ACL/MCL rupture, but it will be interesting to see how he goes by playoffs time. Ennor is well below international level as a centre.
Certainties:
Ioane
ALB(injured?)12 options:
Tupaea
Havili
RTS
J Barrett
Goodhue
(Umaga-Jensens need more game time to be considered)13 options:
Fainga'anuku
Goodhue
(PUJ needs more game time to be considered)We could see a back line such as the following at some stage this year, which would be interesting:
9 Smith
10 B Barrett
11 Clarke
12 J Barrett
13 R Ioane
14 Reece
15 JordanI think you should Jordie as 15 contender where I till think he may play for ABs
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- De Groot
- Taukeiaho
- Lomax
- Lord
- Whitelock (rotates w/ Retallick)
- Savea
- Cane
- PGS
- Smith
- B. Barrett
- Ioane
- J. Barrett
- ALB
- Reece
- Jordan
- Taylor
- Norris
- Ta’avo
- Vaa’I (S. Barrett?)
- Papalii (Jacobson?)
- Weber
- Mo’unga
- Tupaea (TUJ / PUJ / RTS / Nankivell?)
Wouldn’t mind this team going forward
Inexperienced props sure but think it’s time to get rid of the older non-performers imo
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@george33 what team do u support?
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@yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter
Pretty obvious who @Yeahtheboys supports as well. Terrible team.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@yeahtheboys pretty sure he is a Blues supporter
That’s the joke…
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Moody
Taukeiaho
Ofa T
Lord
Whitelock
Cane
Ioane
Savea
Smith
B. Barrett
L Fainga'anuku
J. Barrett
Ioane
Reece
Jordan
Reserves
Taylor
Hodgman
Newell
S. Barrett
Papalii
Christie
Mo’unga
ClarkeTeam I would like to see Run on.
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This Jordie at 12 thing is really interesting.
Perhaps it depends on whether Jordan is seen as effective enough at test level as a 15.
How's his defence, positioning, high ball work and kicking game compared to Jordie?
Obviously his attack is superior. -
@billy-tell kids these days, when I went to school, jokes were meant to be funny....
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@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
Moody
Taukeiaho
Ofa T
Lord
Whitelock
Cane
Ioane
Savea
Smith
B. Barrett
L Fainga'anuku
J. Barrett
Ioane
Reece
Jordan
Reserves
Taylor
Hodgman
Newell
S. Barrett
Papalii
Christie
Mo’unga
ClarkeTeam I would like to see Run on.
Who are you and how did you get @Chris's password?
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Tupaea appears to have second season syndrome, and has struggled on defence.
Did he have a 'first' season? He was pretty much plucked from the Chiefs squad wasn't he? Did he get many starts? I don't recall anyone touting him as a potential AB before he was selected.
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@chris Interesting team. Have heard something about Lord needing to get back into line quicker after tackles and carries. Looks to have some real ability to impact the game though.
Fainga'anuku is a real talent. Should have been in the ABs last year for some game time.
Wonder if Clarke can cover centre. Has done so for Marist, but may lack some vision? Defence is good.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris Interesting team. Have heard something about Lord needing to get back into line quicker after tackles and carries. Looks to have some real ability to impact the game though.
Fainga'anuku is a real talent. Should have been in the ABs last year for some game time.
Wonder if Clarke can cover centre. Has done so for Marist, but may lack some vision? Defence is good.
LF could also cover centre in that team,
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Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
@Rancid-Schnitzel you better get the tissues ready before reading this !!!!!
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@tim Havili?
Reece, Leicester both ahead of him as a wing, surely?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim Havili?
Reece, Leicester both ahead of him as a wing, surely?
I read it as Havili at 15.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
Havili? Nah.
Rather have Reece on the wing and Jordan at 15.
Swapping last year's 12 & 15 ... ?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim Havili?
Reece, Leicester both ahead of him as a wing, surely?
#booboo
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@crazy-horse Gregor must be picking from Fozzies coaching manual...
Lets shift our 12 from last year to 15, a position he hasnt played at super for 2 seasons, or in black for 4? and move the guy that has been playing 15, to 14 (obviously this isnt quite as bigger deal)
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Was it Willie?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@crazy-horse Gregor must be picking from Fozzies coaching manual...
Lets shift our 12 from last year to 15, a position he hasnt played at super for 2 seasons, or in black for 4? and move the guy that has been playing 15, to 14 (obviously this isnt quite as bigger deal)
Yeah I was thinking along the same lines. That would be a backline of players playing in differing degrees of unfamiliar positions.
On a side note, I can't remember a bunch of ABs like this lot whose best position is arguable. Both Barretts, both Ioanes, Jordan, DH, Savea, Papalii, Blackadder, Goodhue, ALB. I am sure I have missed one or two.
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@yeahtheboys you are joking with those props???? Delusional mate.
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Victor Meldrewreplied to antipodean on 10 Apr 2022, 07:44 last edited by Victor Meldrew 10 Apr 2022, 07:51
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2022:
See above. Foster seems to be surrounding himself with consultants. It's chapter two of "Shit Managers Handbook". A book I know well from contracting and consulting for decades.
Depends if the consultants actually add useful input and value or do what they usually do - regurgitate the latest bullshit from management "gurus" with zero knowledge of running an enterprise.
If Cron and Strawbridge can add value and specialist knowledge that's currently missing to actually improve stuff, then fine by me. Whether or not Foster and co. should have all the knowledge they need is another argument, though a very valid one.
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Rancid Schnitzelreplied to MN5 on 10 Apr 2022, 08:06 last edited by Rancid Schnitzel 10 Apr 2022, 08:07
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
@Rancid-Schnitzel you better get the tissues ready before reading this !!!!!
I've barely watched a minute of rugby this year but now I'm ready to get back into the game! Fůck I'm ahead of the curve. When JB leads us to RWC glory next year at 12 all the naysayers can go root a giraffe.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
@Rancid-Schnitzel you better get the tissues ready before reading this !!!!!
I've barely watched a minute of rugby this year but now I'm ready to get back into the game! Fůck I'm ahead of the curve. When JB leads us to RWC glory next year at 12 all the naysayers can go root a giraffe.
I still remember his play in the last Lions tour, his distribution was excellent
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2022:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks 2022:
@mn5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
Gregor Paul suggests an AB backline:
A back three of Havili, Will Jordan and Caleb Clarke, a midfield of Jordie Barrett and Rieko Ioane, with Aaron Smith and Beauden Barrett as playmakers and the All Blacks may have their deadliest backline in years.
@Rancid-Schnitzel you better get the tissues ready before reading this !!!!!
I've barely watched a minute of rugby this year but now I'm ready to get back into the game! Fůck I'm ahead of the curve. When JB leads us to RWC glory next year at 12 all the naysayers can go root a giraffe.
I still remember his play in the last Lions tour, his distribution was excellent
He was probably the best player on the park and he was only 19. Yet there were still people desperate to write him off.
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