All Blacks 2022
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@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:
@dan54 All Blacks have been poor, especially since 2020. Ireland are a better team. There is no negativity in that statement, it is what it is. Wouldn't an arrogant NZ supporter believe we will win in June? I just can't believe the articles in NZ surprised that Six Nations is faster and more physical than Super rugby etc, etc. NZ supporters do kind of live in a bubble if they think the ABs are still a world force. They potentially can be of course but.....some deep thinking and changes are needed.
No you misunderstood what was said, to say ABs lost against France etc because they are poor is arrogant and not giving France Ireland credit, which is arrogant. Sometimes other teams are just better. ABs won RC etc last years, so I guess if a poor team won that you are saying the Wallabies, Pumas and Boks are pretty crap. That is what Crowley is talking about, so called fans that just rubbish own team because they are beaten by a better team is arrogance!
And of course we can still want the ABs to win against Irish, I want them to beat Boks,etc etc too, but if another team beats them by playing as well as Irish etc have, I will accept it! Irish also beat everyone else apart from France, does that make everyone poor? -
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@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.
TH
Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned
he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.
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@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.
TH
Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned
he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.
moody is 33 and ainsley is 26.....
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@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.
TH
Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned
he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.
Joe Moody is 33
Ainsley is 26
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Can someone please remind me what side Ainsley plays on.
TH
Cheers. Just surprised he wasn't being mentioned
he is around Moodey's age maybe its that.
Joe Moody is 33
Ainsley is 26
Wow for some reason I thought he was in his 30's
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@chris he was real young when he got his wallaby caps
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@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris he was real young when he got his wallaby caps
He must have been, he has was in Aussie for a while I assumed he was a lot older.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial If you think our current tight heads are limited, then what the hell would you want Mafileo in the ABs for? He may be a Harbour legend, but he is there to scrum and nothing else.
I said he enters the discussion.
If the plan is to have a scrummager first and foremost then he's an option and possibly a better investment for next year than Laulala. -
So when discussing players there is little expectation or demand for change from what I can see.
Does that mean we except who we have?
Question to ask then is whether things really are the fault of the coaches or is it the cattle they are working with?
Think about it, we often see coaches obviously frustrated that the players aren't doing what they want or aren't executing under pressure.
I totally agree that overcoming those aspects is part of coaching but there must also be times where the coaching staff feel they have set the team up for a win only for a dumb penalty or a dropped ball by a player has derailed the mission. -
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@duluth said in All Blacks 2022:
@crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
Don't we have a Fozzie thread somewhere?
Can we get this one back to discussing the 2022 ABs?Yes
All off topic posts will get deleted after this one. It's the same 3-4 posters that want every thread to be about one topic. It crowds out the good conversation
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Iām less worried about our starting props then our bench. Karl T was fairly dreadful last year for example. If we select exactly the same props as 2021 then that will be ominous.
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@nepia said in All Blacks 2022:
@chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:
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@chris-b said in All Blacks 2022:
He's an import
nooooo
seriously?
an import? In the South Central Vikings?
I for one am shocked. Shocked i tell you
Pah!
If everyone else had produced as many good players as us, we wouldn't need to be having these fearful conversations about France and Ireland.
Frankly, if anyone else had....
You're pronouncing imported wrong.
You have amazing hearing
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@billy-tell In the games against Ireland and France we were really dominated in the forwards in the first half.
Our bench props were not good, but it is odd to blame them more than the starters.
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@dan54 Yeah, I understand but the fact of the matter is, and with no slight on the opposition, the ABs played poorly.
