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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #3495

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    He may not be able to change everything at the same time (and this year)

    Don't see why not if, as the pundits say, we have plenty of players with higher skill levels than other countries and he has access to them. It's his job to win Tests consistently and make changes to do that rapidly. I'd expect a heck of lot better than Foster's record of success.

    there are tests to be played and you can't make too many changes all at once (players have to learn new game plans/structures), but I think the changes will be thorough.

    He's an excellent coach strong on embedding game plans, culture, instilling confidence etc and he'd be working with the cream of NZ players so I don't see the problem with rapid change and success. As has been said many times, Rassie did it.

    If Razor gets the job before the RC, I'd expect a heck of lot better than Foster's record of success. I'd want him to at least equal Foster's 2021 win ratio in that completion, so one loss only, and no losses on the EOYT tour considering it's a light schedule and we are playing Wales, Scotland and only one traditionally difficult opponent in England. Anything less would be zero progress.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
    #3497

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

    Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
    #3498

    @gt12 fucking world rugby! Where are they based again? Brilliant.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

    Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

    Personally I think we need both.

    They are against us.

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to Billy Tell on last edited by
    #3500

    @Billy-Tell DP has offered a whole lot more when part of a proper trio.

    Phrasing

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  • canefanC Online
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by canefan
    #3501

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

    Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

    Personally I think we need both.

    They are against us.

    They've always been against us. Everytime we master the rules they change them to try to even things up. What I can't abide, is when we shoot ourselves in the foot. Since Steve Tew left, thats all we seem to be doing on the administrative front, and since 2018 on the field we have been in decline with no visible plan to pull us out of it

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

    Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

    Personally I think we need both.

    They are against us.

    They've always been against us. Everytime we master the rules they change them to try to even things up. What I can't abide, is when we shoot ourselves in the foot. Since Steve Tew left, thats all we seem to be doing

    So, its in our hands to find the right people to combat that. I’m not only suggesting that we need to care more, I’m suggesting that we need to choose people who can redefine our game plan.

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  • canefanC Online
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by canefan
    #3503

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2022:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Whatever they do, I’d have this on the wall.

    The entire rugby community, including world rugby, is enjoying the ABs being shown up.

    Every coach - and AB - should have to look at shit like this and consider whether they are prepared to put some Mana back into the jersey.

    If you cant deliver, leave.

    Yeah nah. What NZ rugby needs is intelligence not emotion. More of this « channel your emotions” and less of an actuel game plan, strategy etc will get us nowhere.

    Personally I think we need both.

    They are against us.

    They've always been against us. Everytime we master the rules they change them to try to even things up. What I can't abide, is when we shoot ourselves in the foot. Since Steve Tew left, thats all we seem to be doing

    So, its in our hands to find the right people to combat that. I’m not only suggesting that we need to care more, I’m suggesting that we need to choose people who can redefine our game plan.

    We have generally done that pretty well over the years. Even lesser performing coaches were considered among the best available at the time despite not being everyone's pick. Not this time, and now we are paying for it

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  • BonesB Online
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    #3504

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #3505

    So with Lord and Retallick out and Scott Barrett under a cloud, we will need to bring in a lock or two. I thought a couple of the MAB locks fared pretty well and Dickson would be my first port of call as cover.

    I think they’ll keep Bower, Ross, Ta’avao, Tu’ungafasi and Laulala. I wouldn’t have the latter two and would replace Karl T.

    A good opportunity to start Sami in all RC tests and rotate the bench hooker. I’d keep Taylor to play that role in some of them but also have one other. Don’t know who because Eklund and Aumua don’t fill me with great confidence. Where’s the empty cupboard emoji…

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #3506

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

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    Someone with hair like that really shouldn't draw attention to themselves.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
    #3507

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    So with Lord and Retallick out Scott Barrett under a cloud, we will need to bring in lock or two. I thought a couple of the MAB locks fared pretty well and Dickson would be my first port of call as cover.

    I think they’ll keep Bower, Ross, Ta’avao, Tu’ungafasi and Laulala. I wouldn’t have the latter two and would replace Karl T.

    A good opportunity to start Sami in all RC tests and rotate the bench hooker. I’d keep Taylor to play that role in some of them but also have one other. Don’t know who because Eklund and Aumua don’t fill me with great confidence. Where’s the empty cupboard emoji…

    In the post match Fozzie seemed pissed of at the players as if they didn't do what was asked. It will be very interesting to see where the axe swings.

    I think that the locks did their roles (even if those roles weren't great). It was obvious that BBBRs job was to carry and tackle close while SWs was to clean out slightly wider.
    Taylor was a huge let down, but as you say, we need him still there as the options aren't great. Eklund didn't look the goods against Ireland B. Aumua hasn't risen above 'potential'.
    Do we take a hail mary shot and throw in an understudy that gets extra coaching?
    Karl T will be gone anyway and it's time to invest heavily in Ross/De Groot.
    I'm going to get shot down heavily here as a 'hater' but I don't see Akira being the answer at 6. Is he our best option right now? Probably. But I can see why Barrett was put in. Where are our 6s that play direct, suck in tacklers, make metres and, most importantly, own their channel and make others think twice about going that way..

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #3508

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm going to get shot down heavily here as a 'hater' but I don't see Akira being the answer at 6. Is he our best option right now? Probably. But I can see why Barrett was put in. Where are our 6s that play direct, suck in tacklers, make metres and, most importantly, own their channel and make others think twice about going that way..

    nah all good.

    i think a huge problem is the way they are obviously told to play. It was noticeable that Akira kept getting positioned at about the 5m line for some dumb ass reason, especially in the first half. And we never got him the ball. So we waste an attacking threat. Run out of guys to clean rucks, and clog the space for our outside backs. It's the same dumb shit from prime-Read (which was what, 5-6 years ago?)

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #3509

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm going to get shot down heavily here as a 'hater' but I don't see Akira being the answer at 6. Is he our best option right now? Probably. But I can see why Barrett was put in. Where are our 6s that play direct, suck in tacklers, make metres and, most importantly, own their channel and make others think twice about going that way..

    Not shooting you down as a hater but your comment seems ill timed after a test match when Akira was one of the few ABs to do what you say the role should be and after a series where SB despite the hype (and weirdly high Fern MOTM votes) barely made any metres and missed more tackles than most ABs.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
    #3510

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm going to get shot down heavily here as a 'hater' but I don't see Akira being the answer at 6. Is he our best option right now? Probably. But I can see why Barrett was put in. Where are our 6s that play direct, suck in tacklers, make metres and, most importantly, own their channel and make others think twice about going that way..

    Not shooting you down as a hater but your comment seems ill timed after a test match when Akira was one of the few ABs to do what you say the role should be and after a series where SB despite the hype (and weirdly high Fern MOTM votes) barely made any metres and missed more tackles than most ABs.

    dominant tackles, good metres in contact, great explosive try, shifted bodies at the ruck. Hell of a game

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Nepia on last edited by
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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    I'm going to get shot down heavily here as a 'hater' but I don't see Akira being the answer at 6. Is he our best option right now? Probably. But I can see why Barrett was put in. Where are our 6s that play direct, suck in tacklers, make metres and, most importantly, own their channel and make others think twice about going that way..

    Not shooting you down as a hater but your comment seems ill timed after a test match when Akira was one of the few ABs to do what you say the role should be and after a series where SB despite the hype (and weirdly high Fern MOTM votes) barely made any metres and missed more tackles than most ABs.

    Did he though? I totally get that he may have been under the coaches instructions/patterns so can't take that blame but people are saying Cane didn't do much and he had a better tackle count and % than Akira.
    Akira and Ardie made the most number of passes for the ABs the other night. That shows a fucked up gameplan where they aren't being used as carriers in traffic. Both made big metres but again, not mostly in close where we need it.
    Maybe if given a different role we may see more of what we want but it is strange that SB wasn't used in the same role as Akira. He appeared to be selected to play tighter and either we changed up when he was ruled out or Akira just played looser.
    I'm not bagging the guy, I'm just yet to be convinced that he fits the style we need.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #3512

    @Crucial so what you're saying is our gameplan makes no sense...

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #3513

    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    Did he though?

    Yes he did. I might now have to reevaluate my earlier post and call you a hater. 😉

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Crucial so what you're saying is our gameplan makes no sense...

    There's a gameplan?

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