All Blacks 2022
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:
Christ on a bike, how good would
12 Laumape
look right now.
Considering he did nothing at test level not very?
Dusruspict!
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Wasn’t Foster saying Papali’i could cover blindside, not really starting him? Ioane surely has the inside running to start if he keeps on going the way he’s playing.
I have no doubt he could play at blindside, but i think our tactics change a bit if he starts then how we would play if Ioane starts. Quite different players.
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@ACT-Crusader DP at blind would be pretty similar to Sean O'Brien. He was pretty handy.
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@Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
I also don't really get the angst about PGS. I think he's got a lot of really good qualities we've been severely lacking. Definitely put his hand up.
We probably focus so much on the loose forwards because it feels like there's nothing that can be done, or will be done by the coaches, to reduce the deficiencies of the tight five.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones I guess the issue is, this coaching group do not seem like they can get the best out of thier players, and PGS looks like his best was 6+ weeks ago, however as you say, he does have alot of really good attributes and if they can get those out of him he looks a real weapon....
That seems pretty harsh considering the rise of some new players last year and their continued improvement this year. OTOH - Akira, Christie, Taukieaho, Vaai, Lord, Blackadder, Tupaea, Jordan.
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@Tim TBH I think its the props that are the real issue and lack of mobility with ball carrying, ruck hitting and hard hitting defence, hopefully this is something they will be working on alot with the current lot to take some of the load off our locks and loosies allowing them to focus more on thier jobs instead of thiers + more
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@Bones you'd like to think players hit the field running when they make the ABs, rather than take time to bed in...
TBF I'd say ST, AI, WJ all looked the goods before making ABs, so is more continuation...I'll give you Christie though, I think he has thrived in the AB environment...Lord is a good prospect, so thats on them, but still some way off IMO
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Papalii is larger than your typical openside, and I said months ago I expected him to be used at 6 at some stage. More likely off the bench.
Yep he one of the biggest of the loosies going around, I not suggesting he should be there, but would be ineteresting to see. Foster didn't say he would be there only they think they might like a look at him there.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones you'd like to think players hit the field running when they make the ABs, rather than take time to bed in...
TBF I'd say ST, AI, WJ all looked the goods before making ABs, so is more continuation...I'll give you Christie though, I think he has thrived in the AB environment...Lord is a good prospect, so thats on them, but still some way off IMO
I think Taukieaho has come on leaps and bounds after making the AB's too, he's gone to another level. Jordan's game has been a lot tidier this year.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@Tim TBH I think its the props that are the real issue and lack of mobility with ball carrying, ruck hitting and hard hitting defence, hopefully this is something they will be working on alot with the current lot to take some of the load off our locks and loosies allowing them to focus more on thier jobs instead of thiers + more
Contrary to popular opinion, I think Bower has been showing really well around the park - he has certainly been hitting hard ball in hand. Just a little bit inconsistent at the moment.
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PGS is only there because Blackadder is injured, so I am not sure it is indicative of a change in strategy by the coaches in the loose forward mix (as implied by a couple of articles I read). I'd love to know what MMT's work-ons are.
It's a shame we don't have easier matches first up because then the coaches could have blooded these younger talents more easily.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2022:
I don't think he has a shit's show of starting , but RTS is very lucky in that he plays between the starting 1st five and starting center - COMBINATIONS!!!!!!!
Frankly (get it?) I disagree. Definitely up there as a top 2 12 option.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2022:
I kind of understand PGS's inclusion (type of player) but when you have Grace, Robinson, Jacobson, MMT (haven't noticed too much but will defer to Fern narrative) running around.......
Grace and Robinson especially have been superb at the business end while PGS has looked overawed. Oh well... I hope he proves all the doubters wrong and becomes a beast in test rugby.Good point re Grace. Has built nicely these last couple of weeks.
Am not on the MMT Bandwagon.
Ginge and Jacobsen I'm a fan of.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:
@gt12 is mentioned in the article, well why they picked KT, all down to experience
And scrummaging.
