All Blacks 2022
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
Is it even conservative to pick Goodhue for a test when he hasn't shown any form since his injury? Seems like it would actually be the riskier move.
If he goes reasonably OK, I'd think Foster will think it's less risky than picking a bloke who's played less than 10 games of top-level Union and zero Tests, or a relative novice like QT, than a bloke with 70 games and 19 Tests.
Sensible action you would think would be to just pick the best performer from RTS, JG or QT over the next 2 weekends?? I know it's a wild idea right?? Especially since they are all in action and super rugby playoff rugby is as close to test rugby as you're gonna get.
I'd think and hope the selectors take a bit more notice of a player's ability than 2 games of Super Rugby. They have in the past - otherwise Ma'a would have been dropped in 2010 or 2011.
Although apparently SBW didn't perform very well in 2010 for the ABs. So RTS is obviously not going to either?
Not sure the point you are making here, though it might be a reference to my earlier comment that SBW's lack of RU experience, despite nearly 2 years in top-flight Union, was exposed by Wales and was a risk which didn't pay off, and he was pulled halfway thru the match.
Let's just overlook the fact that SBW hadn't actually played super rugby yet, he'd only NPC. Actually he hadn't even played NPC playoff rugby as the All Blacks were pulled before then. Definitely a fair equivalence to compare the two then..... lol
I think we need to be a bit more humble and not think that NZ Super rugby is so much better and superior to NH & NH Premiership rugby (just check out our performance against NH sides recently).
I'd also argue that the idea that a bloke with 8 games at Super Rugby level is as prepared and experienced for Test level as the likes of Gary Ringrose, Bundi Aki & Robbie Henshaw and that playing him at Test level doesn't carry a big risk, is a bit fallacious.
Very natural progression for RTS to play finals super rugby and then move up to a home test series. If this was a Bledisloe or a Bok test at altitude then I'd be inclined to agree but it's not.
It's the perfect opportunity to blood him.
Again I don't think SBW is a fair comparison because RTS simply would have played a higher standard of competition than what SBW had played up to that point. They're different players anyway.
Of course it's still somewhat moot, RTS still needs to do the business tomorrow. Hopefully pundits will be barracking for him to do well rather than hoping for a barry crocker so they can win arguments on the internet....
I’ll be hoping he (and other Blues) have an absolute shocker, as I want the underdog Saders to have a home GF.
FWIW, I think QT still makes the AB squad.
Interesting take, and don't take this the wrong way, but even if the Chiefs had won tonight, I'd be supporting the Blues tomorrow.
I want kiwi teams and kiwi players in the final.
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Victor Meldrewreplied to Frye on 10 Jun 2022, 13:02 last edited by Victor Meldrew 10 Jun 2022, 13:04
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
Is it even conservative to pick Goodhue for a test when he hasn't shown any form since his injury? Seems like it would actually be the riskier move.
If he goes reasonably OK, I'd think Foster will think it's less risky than picking a bloke who's played less than 10 games of top-level Union and zero Tests, or a relative novice like QT, than a bloke with 70 games and 19 Tests.
Sensible action you would think would be to just pick the best performer from RTS, JG or QT over the next 2 weekends?? I know it's a wild idea right?? Especially since they are all in action and super rugby playoff rugby is as close to test rugby as you're gonna get.
I'd think and hope the selectors take a bit more notice of a player's ability than 2 games of Super Rugby. They have in the past - otherwise Ma'a would have been dropped in 2010 or 2011.
Although apparently SBW didn't perform very well in 2010 for the ABs. So RTS is obviously not going to either?
Not sure the point you are making here, though it might be a reference to my earlier comment that SBW's lack of RU experience, despite nearly 2 years in top-flight Union, was exposed by Wales and was a risk which didn't pay off, and he was pulled halfway thru the match.
Let's just overlook the fact that SBW hadn't actually played super rugby yet, he'd only NPC. Actually he hadn't even played NPC playoff rugby as the All Blacks were pulled before then. Definitely a fair equivalence to compare the two then..... lol
I think we need to be a bit more humble and not think that NZ Super rugby is so much better and superior to NH & NH Premiership rugby (just check out our performance against NH sides recently).
I'd also argue that the idea that a bloke with 8 games at Super Rugby level is as prepared and experienced for Test level as the likes of Gary Ringrose, Bundi Aki & Robbie Henshaw and that playing him at Test level doesn't carry a big risk, is a bit fallacious.
Very natural progression for RTS to play finals super rugby and then move up to a home test series. If this was a Bledisloe or a Bok test at altitude then I'd be inclined to agree but it's not.
It's the perfect opportunity to blood him.
I think the Irish Test series is absolutely key after last year and probably as important as TRC & Bledisloe. We need to win it and win it well. If we win the first 2 Tests & wrap up the series then absolutely try out some new people like RTS. I hope the AB coaches have a real good look at him in the wider squad and develop him in a sensible way and just hope they don't throw him in the deep end. I'd love to have someone like RTS competing for a starting slot by the EOYT.
Again I don't think SBW is a fair comparison because RTS simply would have played a higher standard of competition than what SBW had played up to that point. They're different players anyway.
A player can look a million dollars playing in a dominant team, but crap under pressure in an average one. And we don't have the luxury of trying him out with Ma'a on the bench if it doesn't work out
My point was that SBW wasn't thrown in the deep end after a few games. He had a long intro to RU, had plenty of experience at Toulon under Tana, looked great against England and even then was pretty much exposed against Wales.
Of course it's still somewhat moot, RTS still needs to do the business tomorrow. Hopefully pundits will be barracking for him to do well rather than hoping for a barry crocker so they can win arguments on the internet....
I agree. I hope he does well and I think he's a real talent. I just want that talent handled as well as possible in a Black shirt so we end up with an SBW (without the occasional brain-farts) rather than a Henry Paul.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Frye said in All Blacks 2022:
Is it even conservative to pick Goodhue for a test when he hasn't shown any form since his injury? Seems like it would actually be the riskier move.
If he goes reasonably OK, I'd think Foster will think it's less risky than picking a bloke who's played less than 10 games of top-level Union and zero Tests, or a relative novice like QT, than a bloke with 70 games and 19 Tests.
Sensible action you would think would be to just pick the best performer from RTS, JG or QT over the next 2 weekends?? I know it's a wild idea right?? Especially since they are all in action and super rugby playoff rugby is as close to test rugby as you're gonna get.
I'd think and hope the selectors take a bit more notice of a player's ability than 2 games of Super Rugby. They have in the past - otherwise Ma'a would have been dropped in 2010 or 2011.
Although apparently SBW didn't perform very well in 2010 for the ABs. So RTS is obviously not going to either?
Not sure the point you are making here, though it might be a reference to my earlier comment that SBW's lack of RU experience, despite nearly 2 years in top-flight Union, was exposed by Wales and was a risk which didn't pay off, and he was pulled halfway thru the match.
Let's just overlook the fact that SBW hadn't actually played super rugby yet, he'd only NPC. Actually he hadn't even played NPC playoff rugby as the All Blacks were pulled before then. Definitely a fair equivalence to compare the two then..... lol
I think we need to be a bit more humble and not think that NZ Super rugby is so much better and superior to NH & NH Premiership rugby (just check out our performance against NH sides recently).
I'd also argue that the idea that a bloke with 8 games at Super Rugby level is as prepared and experienced for Test level as the likes of Gary Ringrose, Bundi Aki & Robbie Henshaw and that playing him at Test level doesn't carry a big risk, is a bit fallacious.
Very natural progression for RTS to play finals super rugby and then move up to a home test series. If this was a Bledisloe or a Bok test at altitude then I'd be inclined to agree but it's not.
It's the perfect opportunity to blood him.
Again I don't think SBW is a fair comparison because RTS simply would have played a higher standard of competition than what SBW had played up to that point. They're different players anyway.
Of course it's still somewhat moot, RTS still needs to do the business tomorrow. Hopefully pundits will be barracking for him to do well rather than hoping for a barry crocker so they can win arguments on the internet....
I’ll be hoping he (and other Blues) have an absolute shocker, as I want the underdog Saders to have a home GF.
FWIW, I think QT still makes the AB squad.
Interesting take, and don't take this the wrong way, but even if the Chiefs had won tonight, I'd be supporting the Blues tomorrow.
I want kiwi teams and kiwi players in the final.
I can’t stand the Brumbies and if it were a regular season game, yep would be wanting the Blues to smash em. But a home final is on the line and that is massive - as would EP be for the Blues.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
Was keeping an eye on him on your recommendation. Think he played himself out of immediate contention with one play, or non play, on Grace. Unforgivable.
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@Bones Just remember who he was operating outside of. Gatland is predictable and offered no ability to break the line so they could focus on Tupea. I not saying he the best we have but I must be hard looking at 2 tacklers in front on you all the time.
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones Just remember who he was operating outside of. Gatland is predictable and offered no ability to break the line so they could focus on Tupea. I not saying he the best we have but I must be hard looking at 2 tacklers in front on you all the time.
That's not the case.
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After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
After tonight's game, Hodgman secures on the LH positions, RTS needs more time, Robinson 100% should be in.
I can see Perofeta in the squad and in the 23 for one of the later tests. Turning into a very safe, mature player.
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Old Samurai Jackreplied to number9 on 11 Jun 2022, 10:56 last edited by Old Samurai Jack 11 Jun 2022, 10:57
@number9 Eh? Why Hodgman? Agree with Robinson(have for the last few years).
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@number9 Hodgman was brilliant tonight at leading our counter rocking. A perfect bench option at test level imo.
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Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.
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Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?
De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
Can't see Alix Hodgemen making it. When is Moody back?
De Groot, Williams look like future stars rather than honest toilers. Is Norris LH also?
In 2023.
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@Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.
Might come back refreshed and rejuvenated! Can get some inspiration from Laulala.
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So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Fucking Finau
Was keeping an eye on him on your recommendation. Think he played himself out of immediate contention with one play, or non play, on Grace. Unforgivable.
Thought it was, saw somewhere about it.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
Who does Robinson get in there for? He played very well tonight no doubt about it.
He's a lock/loose utility at Test level. Probably late squad pick, but can't see him in the 23 unless weird things happen.
Playing well doesn't necesarily get you into the ABs - as you say, there has to be a space that you are better than someone else to get in.
I think Perofeta gets there as the third 10 and utility back. Competing iwth DMac when he comes back though
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?
Not listed to be on Sky at this stage. Maybe streamed via allblacks.com socials?
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
So the team naming Monday 12(?), Not televised?
Not listed to be on Sky at this stage. Maybe streamed via allblacks.com socials?
Yeah it is, saw a link to the live stream on FB
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@Bones one can only hope because with the ABs sometimes these characters hang around based on reputation and not performance. Yes good for Nepo in the scrum last night but I think you would agree that we need props that can scrum and take up the ball and the rest. Not one dimensional. Plus yea he stayed out of the bin.
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Paul Cully with his possible AB squad (including 5 new caps):
Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)
No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2022:
@Stargazer He can take longer to return if he likes. He has been underwhelming for a couple of years now. Has no go forward and we need that in our props.
IMO he's still the best LH we have.
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@nzzp As much as I think Robinson would be vwry good in the test environment, who does he replace?
In a way I think he is competing directly with Vai who is a lock that can play 6 while Robinson is a 6 that can play lock, and Vai has shown enough to continue the investment in him.
And this is where the NZ Maori is an issue for guys like Robinson, Eklund, Seger, Holland, MMT, Morgan, Roe etc, even Frizzel if he isn't in the main squad*
Guys that would likely thrive if given a chance against Ireland if it was NZ A, not NZ Maori playing them.
*Assuming none have any Maori ancestors.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Paul Cully with his possible AB squad (including 5 new caps):
Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)
No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
That won’t be far off at all.
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@taniwharugby Eklund is alread MABs capped (see my article). I expect him to be the no. 1 hooker in the MABs squad. Easy to exclude Segner and Holland. MMT is Samoan. Frizell is Tongan. The rest, who knows? I was surprised by the call-ups of Josh Dickson, the Norris brothers, Nankivell and Trask, but their Māori ancester may just be further up the family tree.
I assume that if the rumours are true about the All Blacks XV playing a few games, later this year, some of these guys may be in that squad.
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@Stargazer but that's the point, some are probably better than some that make the Maori side, but are excluded due to not being Maori.
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@taniwharugby Just added another sentence.
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Here's the link for YouTube:
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Paul Cully with his possible AB squad (including 5 new caps):
Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)
No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
That won’t be far off at all.
Agree. Three only thing I'm not sure about is new props (cos I know nothing), and I think havili will still be in. Not saying should but will be
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
Paul Cully with his possible AB squad (including 5 new caps):
Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)
No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
That won’t be far off at all.
Agree. Three only thing I'm not sure about is new props (cos I know nothing), and I think havili will still be in. Not saying should but will be
I'm thinking maybe one less lock. Havili in as midfielder and Lester F named as an outside back.
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@Bovidae don't agree with Bower and Taavao in the squad. Angus has not done a lot to warrant selection, Bower replacing Moody is not a good enough reason to be selected either. Both have had mediocre seasons. I would replace them with Newell and Hodgman both have consistently played well throughout the season.
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae don't agree with Bower and Taavao in the squad. Angus has not done a lot to warrant selection, Bower replacing Moody is not a good enough reason to be selected either. Both have had mediocre seasons. I would replace them with Newell and Hodgman both have consistently played well throughout the season.
I think Hodgeman should be in the team, I can't remember who posted it but he by far and away had some of the best stats of any NZ prop in Super Rugby for rucks hit, tackles etc etc. I thought AT was very strong on Friday vs the Crusaders, the scrum was very solid, he carts it up like a trooper and made plenty of tackles.
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@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae don't agree with Bower and Taavao in the squad. Angus has not done a lot to warrant selection, Bower replacing Moody is not a good enough reason to be selected either. Both have had mediocre seasons. I would replace them with Newell and Hodgman both have consistently played well throughout the season.
Angus has also played well all season. Has been a big part of one of the best front rows of the comp and has fronted up against whatever the Blues, Saders and Brumbies could bring. He isn't my first pick starter but using your own logic should be there.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:
@number9 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bovidae don't agree with Bower and Taavao in the squad. Angus has not done a lot to warrant selection, Bower replacing Moody is not a good enough reason to be selected either. Both have had mediocre seasons. I would replace them with Newell and Hodgman both have consistently played well throughout the season.
Angus has also played well all season. Has been a big part of one of the best front rows of the comp and has fronted up against whatever the Blues, Saders and Brumbies could bring. He isn't my first pick starter but using your own logic should be there.
Newell was owned by Ross who is, by most accounts, a fringe selection.Newell didn't really prop against Ross Jager did and when Norris came on he got owned by Newell in the last 20 minutes.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
Newell didn't really prop against Ross Jager did and when Norris came on he got owned by Newell in the last 20 minutes.
That was only one scrum. When a fresh Dyer replaced Ta'avao the scrums were even. Ta'avao has been playing ~70 mins in recent weeks so there is going to be some fatigue late in the game. Bower and Jager were owned in the 1st half.
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@number9 I am not a Bower fan either, but I expect he'll be in the squad. Dominating a no-name Qld front row means little when we get to test rugby. Bower really struggled against the better international scrums last year.
Cully mentions that there have been concerns about de Groot's fitness, something many of us have noted. He could be the LH prop to miss out. You would want your best props starting, but I am not sure which LH that is myself. I like Hodgman but he might be better as the reserve LH.
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Hookers: Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Samisoni Taukei’aho (Chiefs), Dane Coles (Hurricanes)
Three ticks
Props: Nepo Laulala (Blues), Ofa Tuungafasi (Blues), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Ethan de Groot (Highlanders), George Bower (Crusaders), Aidan Ross (Chiefs)
Who cares….
Locks: Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Josh Lord (Chiefs), Tupou Vaa’i (Chiefs), Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
Can’t really fault any of these. Whitelock’s health the only issue.
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (Chiefs, captain), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Dalton Papalii (Blues), Akira Ioane (Blues), Luke Jacobson (Chiefs), Hoskins Sotutu (Blues), Shannon Frizell (Highlanders)
For me Jacobson and Frizell are a bit ho-hum. Would rather they take a punt with MMT given Cane, Savea, Ioane, Sotutu/Papali’i will be getting most of the playing time.
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith (Highlanders), Brad Weber (Chiefs), Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)
With TJP possibly in the Maori, I guess it’s a call between Weber and Christie.
No 10s: Beauden Barrett (Blues), Richie Mo’unga (Crusaders)
All good
Midfielders: Rieko Ioane (Blues), Jack Goodhue (Crusaders), Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (Blues), Leicester Fainga’anuku (Crusaders)
Not sure if both RTS and LF will make it, but I wouldn’t mind it. I think LF is still more a wing that can play centre.
Outside backs: Caleb Clarke (Blues), Sevu Reece (Crusaders), Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes), Will Jordan (Crusaders), Stephen Perofeta (Blues)
Can see a strong argument for Perofeta, but could we just go in with BB and Mo’unga and have Jordie on emergency (ala Rangi all those years ago). That would open the door for a bolter like Lam or another midfielder.
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