All Blacks 2022
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
I will add Akira has been selcted at super and test level for very little reward, but as I said that was in past and believe he has high ceiling when he puts in effort
Ok this argument I simply do not get.
His first test against Aus in Brisbane he was excellent for 20 minutes before having to come off which in hindsight was a mistake (Ofa got red-carded).
His second test he had an absolute blinder vs Argentina
Last year he was outstanding in the Bledisloes before struggling vs the Boks.
Yep to be fair, Akira has been good against Aussie, and in super has really only played well last couple of seasons, up until then he killed it at NPC level, even his own coaches were publicly saying he needed to work harder. I still maintain he has a higher ceiling than most of our 6s, and he will show it against the big packs one day, and then will I think be right.
Will Genia, when interviewed, noted that Akiraās physical presence made him the NZ Loosie which Aussie sides were wary of.
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The seven loosies are the most interesting.
Assuming all fit, Cane, Ardie and Paps cover seven.
For a roaming 8, Ardie and Sotutu fit the bill, with latter tops in lineout, which oughtnāt to be forgotten.
Physical 6/8s start IMO with Akira. The next straightforward pick is Frizell, but for me heās one of those players who looks very good in Super and against āBā test sides, but ordinary at highest level.
Iād rather give one or both of MMT or Pita Gus a run at 6, with flexibility to play 8.If only two big 6s chosen the door is opened for Jacobson, who looks good at 7 and 8, and OK at 6, even if a little less physical.
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@Crazy-Horse He was rightly pinged twice against a journeyman, not against a scrum ace. I was among those who thought that he should be selected for this winter's squad but his last outings were rather meh. His form has slipped sensibly. This is why Ryan is giving his preference to Jager. Currently ... but things may change.
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
Bryn Hall believes it's time for a Cullen Grace recallš„“
Ahead of Sotutu!
Fucking hell Bryn, get you tongue out of your matesā asses.
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@gt12 when it comes to the Crusaders Hall never gives a sound objective opinion. Cullen Grace is nowhere near his 2020 form. If he plugged MMT I would agree with him, PGS form has dropped he was good in the middle of Super but his for has declined as the season has progressed. As a halfback he is not in the same league as Fakatava, Christie or even Webber.
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Grace is developing well. He has a big skill set and is adding physicality as he gets more experience. Let's see how he goes on Saturday.
Sotutu, though, he is having a real special season. If he can transfer that to test rugby, I would have him ahead of Savea at No.8. -
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
Bryn Hall believes it's time for a Cullen Grace recallš„“
He is actuallu playing well, and a bloody good lineout option, bit like Read, though whether he ahead of other options?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2022:
@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
Bryn Hall believes it's time for a Cullen Grace recallš„“
Ahead of Sotutu!
Fucking hell Bryn, get you tongue out of your matesā asses.
To be fair though ,although we might or might not agree, players out on park would have a f***** sight more idea than any of us who are the players that are going well. Although his thoughts like anyones may be slightly coloured etc, I do find him and Parsons opinion real bloody interesting on that podcast.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
Mate ask my missus
Sounds like a legit thing to do over reading your posts!
Well if they upset you so much don't read em.
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
Mate ask my missus
Sounds like a legit thing to do over reading your posts!
Well if they upset you so much don't read em.
Your missus isn't usually that upsetting.
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@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 it's just that I feel MMT is knocking on the door more at present
Yep, he's certainly been form 6/8 I reckon too, I wouldn't be upset if he was there by any means. I was really on his wagon a couple of years back, he didn't ge well last year, but certainly seems back on his game this year.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Finau
Finau is my bolter because he likes to hurt people, and we don't have many of those.
Really rate Finau too, though he maybe a year or 2 off, he only 23, or something so I can see a future for him perhaps after WC?
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:
@FakatavaFuture said in All Blacks 2022:
@Dan54 it's just that I feel MMT is knocking on the door more at present
Yep, he's certainly been form 6/8 I reckon too, I wouldn't be upset if he was there by any means. I was really on his wagon a couple of years back, he didn't ge well last year, but certainly seems back on his game this year.
Behind Sotutu and Akira, but certainly ahead of Frizzell, just on workrate on defence. Be a good backup to Akira to see how he handles the next level.
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36 players = 2 full teams less one outside back plus 7 'extras'
What I think will be close to the selection.
Props: Ofa Tuungafasi, Nepo Laulala, Ethan de Groot, Aiden Ross, George Bower, Alex Hodgman/ Angus Ta'avao
Hookers: Codie Taylor, Samisoni Taukei'aho, Dane Coles
Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Josh Lord
Loose forwards: Sam Cane (c), Ardie Savea, Dalton Papalii, Akira Ioane, Luke Jacobson, Hoskins Sotutu, (MMT/Finau/Grace/Frizzell)
Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava (Weber and TJ to NZ Maori)
First-fives: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Stephen Perofeta
Midfield: Jack Goodhue, Rieko Ioane, Quinn Tupaea, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
Outside backs: Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Caleb Clarke, Jordie Barrett, Leicester Fainga'anuku
Room for one more. Either another prop or two of those bracketed loose forwards.
