All Blacks 2022
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that đ
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...
Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.
That's not my argument.
Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.
Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.
I donât think SBW was ever rated as the âanswerâ.
But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2022:
My memory might be failing me, but didn't SBW play at 6 in France?
Mainly at centre according to the inter-web thingy.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that đ
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah, cos Quinn has just oodles more experience and form, as does Jack...
Same reason we should pick Frizzel over Akira. And Ennor over Faingaanuku.
That's not my argument.
Plenty of examples of players new to Union looking like a million dollars after a few games, getting quickly exposed at Test level and getting their careers stuffed.
Heck, SBW was touted as the second coming in '10 but had to be subbed against Wales after 40 minutes - and that was after 40 or so games with Toulon under Tana.
I donât think SBW was ever rated as the âanswerâ.
But there were a couple of leaguies who made the Wallabies side the season after they left league - Andrew Walker and Mat Rogers. And that was during a time when there was quality backs still playing in green and yellow
Whenever SBW didnât play well for the ABs he was either âcoming back from an injuryâ or âcoming back from a spell in leagueââŚâŚthose excuses got him heaps of game time that others might have been dropped for.
I bet Julian Savea wished he had that kind of marketing.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
Google says 2 to 3 weeks.
If Google says that then thatâs good enough for me.
Who needs medical opinions ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2022:
@Mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2022:
Seems like Daltons injury is appendicitis. Any body know how long it take to recover from that?
Google says 2 to 3 weeks.
If Google says that then thatâs good enough for me.
Who needs medical opinions ?
Dr Google is the man.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Only if we want to lose to Ireland. Again.
Doubt it will be. Think there's a chance Goodhue might get the 12 slot though. Ritche (and poss, Havili) on the bench.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah SBWs career was pretty stuffed after that đ
I think the fact the selectors didn't pick him as first choice 12 or 13 after a handful of matches at Toulon might have had something to do with it.
Yeah true, Tupaea is probably equivalent to Nonu so might as well stick with him and not see how RTS goes.
When SBW was given a go, we had Nonu and/or Conrad to fall back on - which was needed against Wales in '10
Not saying we don't give RTS a go this year, just don't think Foster is going to see throwing him in the deep end against Ireland as the smart option
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022, Goodhue speedwise looks better suited to 12 and Ennor should be nowhere near a black jersey
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2022:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The argument for RTS would be the cohesion argument of 10 Beaudy 12 RTS 13 Rieko
Isn't that the same argument for 10 Mo'unga, 12 Havili & 13 Goodhue/Ennor?
Yeah except all 3 Blues players are vastly superior
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Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
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@mariner4life only with Jordie at 12, which I am warming to with his increased gametime there. He was fucking outstanding against the Brumbies, when he went off for an HIA we just completely fell apart
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2022:
The problem there is Havili has been underwhelming in 2022
He is was also underwhelming once the pressure came on in the ABs last year.
I don't see as him like an incumbent like Whitelock or Smith, and I think he should be dropped. -
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2022:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:
Reece was unreal on Friday and now I'm all in on him playing and being given a license.
Is there a way we can fit all of Reece, Jordan, Jordie and Clarke in the 23?
Chuck Clarke at centre. His Dad went alright.
Lol following that reasoning I guessing you want Hoskins moved to wing??
