All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
Newell only played 50 odd mins, so might not be enough to go off. He was a very good runner a couple years back for the u20 team, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gets that trained out of him.
I might see if I can get his NPC stats (off rugby pass - ew)
We could just guess and that would likely be about as accurate as their stats.
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@crucial said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
Those Oz stats show up Tupou's lack of tackle workrate. Maybe he is told to hang back to punch the ball up from a turnover or maybe he's a lazy fecker when he hasn't got the ball?
I've made the point previously that he loses the ball in contact a heap and then appears to do no work in defence.
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I split the rugby stats posts to a new thread:
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NZ hookers - again, these are the stats one might expect to see over an 80 min game based on their output in the Super Rugby competitions last year. Actual mins played (as best as I can calculate it) is included on the far right.
Frustratingly, they have "Throws Won" but not "Throws Lost".
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
NZ hookers - again, these are the stats one might expect to see over an 80 min game based on their output in the Super Rugby competitions last year. Actual mins played (as best as I can calculate it) is included on the far right.
Frustratingly, they have "Throws Won" but not "Throws Lost".
The crucial number to me there is the minutes played of Taylor.
The starting AB hooker gets the most minutes of any hooker in NZ when he has the highest workload all hookers in NZ.
It's not surprising he's not at his best in a black jersey when his coach is running him into the ground during Super rugby.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
According to these stats, Liam Coltman is the best L.O. thrower in NZ ...
No according to those stats show who had the most efficient lineout. Does it give stats on which lineouts were won and lost on missed lifts in lineout, where the lineout target simply missed ball, or opposition jumper remembered to get up higher and in front of the target? It amazes me how many people assume a lost lineout on own throw is the hooker's fault, another reason I say stats are a waste of time abd good for people who don't watch game properly!
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@dan54 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@cgrant said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
According to these stats, Liam Coltman is the best L.O. thrower in NZ ...
No according to those stats show who had the most efficient lineout. Does it give stats on which lineouts were won and lost on missed lifts in lineout, where the lineout target simply missed ball, or opposition jumper remembered to get up higher and in front of the target? It amazes me how many people assume a lost lineout on own throw is the hooker's fault, another reason I say stats are a waste of time abd good for people who don't watch game properly!
It also only talks avoyt the number of lineout won, not the percentage. It could just be that the Highlanders play a game plan thst forces the opposition to kick more often, which would mean more lineouts
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Edit: Added Josh Lord, GCT and Patty T in
Probably worth mentioning if a player has been swapped between lock and loose forward, this will include all his games, no matter what position. I'll include these players under both the locks and loose forward breakdowns.
I'll probably group blindside and No.8 together for the next post, and provide openside separately.
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@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
Probably worth mentioning if a player has been swapped between lock and loose forward, this will include all his games, no matter what position. I'll include these players under both the locks and loose forward breakdowns.
I'll probably group blindside and No.8 together for the next post, and provide openside separately.
Nice to see my theory about the Saders being shown in the stats again.
Whitelock and Barrett carrying the load, and our senior All Blacks being overplayed in Super rugby.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
@bobily2 said in All Blacks depth 2022 & 2023:
Probably worth mentioning if a player has been swapped between lock and loose forward, this will include all his games, no matter what position. I'll include these players under both the locks and loose forward breakdowns.
I'll probably group blindside and No.8 together for the next post, and provide openside separately.
Nice to see my theory about the Saders being shown in the stats again.
Whitelock and Barrett carrying the load, and our senior All Blacks being overplayed in Super rugby.
Which is a bit bizarre given Strange and Dunshea have both spent time in All Blacks camps (or were named for a camp - I think one of them might've gotten injured first?), and they can definitely afford to rotate in that position
