NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021
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@bovidae said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
Just looking at the winners, I am really surprised that Ross Filipo won ahead of Neil Barnes. This coming from a Waikato supporter.
probably for his speaking out in criticizing the NZR big wigs..
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@kiwi_expat I posted that article originally, and agreed with Barnes. I hope this wasn't the reason. He was the only coach nominated whose team never lost a game.
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@mariner4life said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
Ardie Savea over Jordan is a fucking joke.
What am i missing?
Ardie has a better brand and PR
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It's that time of the year when everyone seems to want to pick a all-time XV. This time it's a British rugby website called ruck.co.uk (never visited it myself). 200,000 respones they say.
15: Serge Blanco (France)
14: Bryan Habana (South Africa)
13: Brian O’Driscoll
12: Ma’a Nonu (New Zealand)
11: Jonah Lomu (New Zealand)
10: Dan Carter (New Zealand)
9: Joost Van Der Westhuizen (South Africa)
8: Zinzan Brooke (New Zealand)
7: Richie McCaw (New Zealand)
6: Francois Pienaar (South Africa)
5: John Eales (Australia)
4: Martin Johnson (England)
3: Owen Franks (New Zealand)
2: Sean Fitzpatrick (New Zealand)
1: Jason Leonard (England)
Seven All Blacks selected in Greatest all-time XV
Every year-end is a field day for list makers, especially in sport, and rugby has been no different in 2021.
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@bovidae jesus, there actually isn't that much to hate about that. Colour me surprised.
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@bovidae said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
It's that time of the year when everyone seems to want to pick a all-time XV. This time it's a British rugby website called ruck.co.uk (never visited it myself). 200,000 respones they say.
15: Serge Blanco (France)
14: Bryan Habana (South Africa)
13: Brian O’Driscoll
12: Ma’a Nonu (New Zealand)
11: Jonah Lomu (New Zealand)
10: Dan Carter (New Zealand)
9: Joost Van Der Westhuizen (South Africa)
8: Zinzan Brooke (New Zealand)
7: Richie McCaw (New Zealand)
6: Francois Pienaar (South Africa)
5: John Eales (Australia)
4: Martin Johnson (England)
3: Owen Franks (New Zealand)
2: Sean Fitzpatrick (New Zealand)
1: Jason Leonard (England)
Seven All Blacks selected in Greatest all-time XV
Every year-end is a field day for list makers, especially in sport, and rugby has been no different in 2021.
BOD doesn’t even need his country in brackets. What a star.
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@mariner4life Hate - No. Disagree - plenty.
I take it players have to be from the professional era? With Blanco exempted as the tokenwhiteVenezuelen? -
@dogmeat said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
@mariner4life Hate - No. Disagree - plenty.
I take it players have to be from the professional era? With Blanco exempted as the tokenwhiteVenezuelen?oh i disagree with heaps of it. But usually i see a public poll of this type and i laugh at every 2nd selection. At least in nearly every position i can say "oh yeah, he's in the conversation for sure"
6 players would make mine, and that is a pretty high number
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@mariner4life You've had one fair point from me today. You've reached your limit.
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@dogmeat said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
@mariner4life You've had one fair point from me today. You've reached your limit.
fair point
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@dogmeat said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
I take it players have to be from the professional era? With Blanco exempted as the token
whiteVenezuelen?That's always the thing about these polls - there is a recency bias.
Pienaar might have no.6 on his jersey but he's competing against McCaw in his position.
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@mariner4life 7-12 I wouldnt argue, sure I could throw names there, but the rest, I think I could argue for better players...
Only 1 jumps out at me as someone I'd not consider at all would be Leonard, despite his longevity, wasnt a fan.
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@mn5 said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
Os Du Randt won two WCs 12 years apart. I’m quite triggered on his behalf that he’s not there.
this might be your best post ever
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@mariner4life said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
@mn5 said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
Os Du Randt won two WCs 12 years apart. I’m quite triggered on his behalf that he’s not there.
this might be your best post ever
Not many to choose from, especially about Rugby, ironic for a predominantly Rugby related page too.
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@bovidae said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
It's that time of the year when everyone seems to want to pick a all-time XV. This time it's a British rugby website called ruck.co.uk (never visited it myself). 200,000 respones they say.
15: Serge Blanco (France)
14: Bryan Habana (South Africa)
13: Brian O’Driscoll
12: Ma’a Nonu (New Zealand)
11: Jonah Lomu (New Zealand)
10: Dan Carter (New Zealand)
9: Joost Van Der Westhuizen (South Africa)
8: Zinzan Brooke (New Zealand)
7: Richie McCaw (New Zealand)
6: Francois Pienaar (South Africa)
5: John Eales (Australia)
4: Martin Johnson (England)
3: Owen Franks (New Zealand)
2: Sean Fitzpatrick (New Zealand)
1: Jason Leonard (England)
Seven All Blacks selected in Greatest all-time XV
Every year-end is a field day for list makers, especially in sport, and rugby has been no different in 2021.
Not a bad effort.
6 is blatently wrong (Kaino for me but much many others in the convo, Pienaar only around for a couple of years and only gets a mention for captaincy ... edit: oh yeah and he's openside ..)
The rest? Definitely in the mix.
Not hateable but possibly debateable.
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@mariner4life said in NZ and World Rugby Awards 2021:
Ardie Savea over Jordan is a fucking joke.
What am i missing?
Hell I don't think it close, Ardie was our best player over year. Much as I a fan of Will Jordan, I don't think he was involved in all his games this year. He was really great at end of year, and perhaps bloody good generally up until then, but maybe earlier in season wasn't invoved enough? But that just my opinion of how I saw the tests.
