All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour

[chimoaus]

Bring on 2024.

[gt12]

@damo said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

Definitely not. That would kill our game both domestically and for the All Blacks as well.

Besides our best players are by and large still in NZ.

I agree with that, but the competition isn’t preparing them for test rugby.

[mofitzy_]

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[Billy Tell]

What makes NZ great is selecting people on merit. Not class, school, university, who your dad is etc.

The foster selection is just not that.

[broughie]

@canefan it would also be an admission that they screwed up.

[sparky]

Huge win for France, congratulations!

[MN5]

I think the most galling part is all the British scribes becoming French fans overnight just like 99 and 97 and writing a bunch of wank about how amazing they are.

[booboo]

@mofitzy_ keep it seemly or I will

[Donsteppa]

We also need to stop pretending that the current version Super Rugby is producing decent international level tight forwards. Or that Brodie is still “BBBR”, he hasn’t been at quite that level since 2016, and has barely been sighted in Super Rugby since about the 2017 season.

[mofitzy_]

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[nostrildamus]

37-25 to France and really they were easily the better side.
The ABs...apart from some shocking individual plays (worst 3 ABs would be an interesting poll) ... overall our combos have got WORSE as the season wore on...

[Old Samurai Jack]

Jeez, 40-25. Same old problems.

[Damo]

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

@damo said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

Definitely not. That would kill our game both domestically and for the All Blacks as well.

Besides our best players are by and large still in NZ.

I agree with that, but the competition isn’t preparing them for test rugby.

One bad year when we lose 3 games and all of sudden the structures we have that have been so successful for so long are defective.?

I think we need to keep things in perspective. We cannot win every game every time.

[gt12]

We are miles away from being a top four team right now.

Is it easily fixed or is the tree rotting?

[MN5]

On the positive side Mils is a pretty good commentator.

Or maybe it just seems that way compared to Marshall.

[mofitzy_]

@booboo
Seemly is seemingly not criticising the coach?

[sparky]

@gt12 said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

Do we need to start picking players from Europe?

If the best players are playing there, we might need to recognize it.

I think we should in World Cup year.

[No Quarter]

So what is the deal with the forwards deciding to take it up the guts every now and then, and we suddenly look dominant? Is that them saying to hell with Fosters game plan and just doing what they want? I just don't understand why we wouldn't do it from the get go, we'd wear teams down and then run rampant in the 2nd 40 if we did. But instead we try to play Helter skelter bullshit from the start of the test which opposition defenses just eat up.

[akan004]

The first 20 of the 2nd half showed that the players aren't as bad as what they have shown over the last two weeks. We are just being so badly coached.

[booboo]

@mofitzy_ said in All Blacks v France, 2021 NH Tour:

@booboo
Seemly is seemingly not criticising the coach?

Just the language and personal abuse.