All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour
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The few times the AB forwards picked and went (pick and goed?) went pretty well, when the cleaners were accurate and able to present quick ball. Only they went to the backs too soon, before the defence was sucked around the ruck. That's the halves' fault
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
The Irish 6 was awesome. That is what akira and blackadder should aspire to.
Caelan Doris. Just cemented his spot in the first team.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew We need someone like Robertson. He knows how to get the best out of players.
On that we agree. Foster has done some good stuff this year but this game and the game against the Boks show that we need more change in the coaching set up as the big boys have worked out how to rattle us and throw us off our game.
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There appears to be unusual obsession with the intergluteal cleft in a number of posts…
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@tordah said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Referee was fine overall but that TMO can suck a dick, not every little decision needs to be looked at for 5 minutes you fluffybunny. Also, that was not a YC for Taylor (probably didn't change the result, though).
Jonathan Sexton looks like a perpetual 12 year old whiny little neighbor's boy, David Havili and Rieko Ioane aren't a midfield's butthole.The TV perspective on Akira try is very deceptive, because a line ball would look forward from the angle, which this ball did.
Clear and obvious? Only to those with no grasp of geometry.
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@gt12 offocial has been pedantic ,but you cant deny the All Blacks have been totally outplayed..
In fact the score is flattering
My underlying thoughts ,players like Aki ,Gibson Park and lowes who would not been in the All Black frame here in NZ have gone on to be world class players ,gotta say some there must be some great individual coaching going on in Ireland
Irelands victory in my opinion was more impressive than the Springboks victory over the All Blacks ..
Won all the big moments ,ball retention and movement was next level
And defensively they stuck so much pressure on the All Blacks . -
I lost sight of Dalton and Richie in the last few minutes - were they still on?
I see Ardie got isolated again after one of his runs, I think the loose forwards have trouble keeping up with him but I don't think the balance works well with him and Akira on together at 6 and 8. I think I prefer Akira to start over Ethan to wear them down, he did use his bulk well and I thought that failed try was just one of those things.
I wanted RIoane to succeed at 13 because of his pace but he just doesn't seem to have the execution, legs are fast, arms (passes) seem to hesitate and his passing accuracy can go awol.
We really have a serious depth problem at midfield.
And I saw BBBR toiling hard but he and Sam are getting older and slower, we need one faster lock. And I don't want to see Lomax at prop again. That was a huge, costly and unnecessary mistake. -
@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew We need someone like Robertson. He knows how to get the best out of players.
On that we agree. Foster has done some good stuff this year but this game and the game against the Boks show that we need more change in the coaching set up as the big boys have worked out how to rattle us and throw us off our game.
And Argentina last year under Foster.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
This for me, is one of our darkest days.
We were absolutely pummeled. Ireland should have won by 50.
We showed zero grit, zero game plan and tried to show boat our way through it.Summed up my feelings perfectly - been like this since 2017.
We seem to go to shit when put under any kind of pressure - no bloody leadership or cool heads.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
There appears to be unusual obsession with the intergluteal cleft in a number of posts…
unusual? For the Fern?
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@majorrage said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
This for me, is one of our darkest days.
We were absolutely pummeled. Ireland should have won by 50.
We showed zero grit, zero game plan and tried to show boat our way through it.
And the best part? Seeing fucking Lowe, Gibson Park jumping out of their fucking skins.
I am so fucking angry right now.
For me, I'm always only angry if I feel the other team didn't deserve the win, be it luck or refereeing. So, I can swallow the losses against the Boks, England in the RWC and Ireland now, a lot more, than some others (BIL 2017 - GGHHHRAAARRR!!!)
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew We need someone like Robertson. He knows how to get the best out of players.
On that we agree. Foster has done some good stuff this year but this game and the game against the Boks show that we need more change in the coaching set up as the big boys have worked out how to rattle us and throw us off our game.
We are predictable.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@gt12 offocial has been pedantic ,but you cant deny the All Blacks have been totally outplayed..
In fact the score is flattering
My underlying thoughts ,players like Aki ,Gibson Park and lowes who would not been in the All Black frame here in NZ have gone on to be world class players ,gotta say some there must be some great individual coaching going on in Ireland
Irelands victory in my opinion was more impressive than the Springboks victory over the All Blacks ..
Won all the big moments ,ball retention and movement was next level
And defensively they stuck so much pressure on the All Blacks .Given the Boks only won on the back of a final minute penalty, this Irish victory was head and shoulders above it.
They lifted and got us back for the ABs dominating them in the RWC QF. A good rivalry
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Firstly, well done Ireland. Deserved winners.
The problems for the ABs start up front. The starting front row were all poor and we lacked dominant ball runners in the loose forwards. Not starting Ioane, or bringing him on early in the 2nd half was a huge mistake. Play Coles and ST. Neither lock played well.
TJP is like a handbrake for the attack. Smith has to start against France. Havili doesn't look like a test 2nd 5.
This test has shown who shouldn't be in the team next week.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
@victor-meldrew We need someone like Robertson. He knows how to get the best out of players.
My concern is that Robertson won't make that much difference and we've effectively shared the headless-chicken stuff from the field to the coaches office.
Something has gone badly wrong in the last 4 years. The only good thing to come from this game is it might make people sit up and ask some hard questions - players, coaches and NZRFU management
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Firstly, well done Ireland. Deserved winners.
The problems for the ABs start up front. The starting front row were all poor and we lacked dominant ball runners in the loose forwards. Not starting Ioane, or bringing him on early in the 2nd half was a huge mistake. Play Coles and ST. Neither lock played well.
TJP is like a handbrake for the attack. Smith has to start against France. Havili doesn't look like a test 2nd 5.
This test has shown who shouldn't be in the team next week.
I thought Moody tried hard across the field, Paps was solid in tackling.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland, 2021 NH Tour:
Not starting Ioane, or bringing him on early in the 2nd half was a huge mistake.
Just like Cane in the 2019 semi. And we've been getting it wrong ever since.
