Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour
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@frye said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@chris said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
D Mac having a mare.
Needs to be a crackdown on chasers running past the ball deliberately.
Am thinking we have to rethink our catching of the high ball.
The bad guys are creating confusion in the landing zone.
Do we change from letting the fullback coming forward try and catch it, and let the stationary/retreating wingers catch it or bat it back and have fullback stand back and clean up any slop?
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@nepia said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@stodders said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@yeetyaah breakdown is reffed differently up north. Funnily enough, it is more of a free for all than in the SH. ABs need to adapt to that.
Also the NH refs could read the fucking law book and ref correctly.
This
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@nostrildamus said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
How was Cane ahead of the kicker? better camera angle, please.
That summed up the ref (and the fuck useless TV coverage).
Had to rewind as no replay.
Yes, Cane was in front. Was moving kinda sideways as the ball was kicked, and was immediately put onside by Tupaea within one step.
Therefore was onside before he moved forward.
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Really glad I didn't watch that live.
That was shit.
Very few players put their hand up for next week.
ABs attacking shape is really bad and predictable. Amazing what happens when Ofa picks and goes instead of the standard shape.
ABs breakdown work was not up to scratch.
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Yeah sure was a tough watch which is to be expected with a B team out there. Tried to do too much off first phase with a green midfield combo who couldn't handle the linespeed of the Italian defence, especially Ennor. Our ball handling was also probably the worst we'll ever see from an AB team.It was only really the set piece that got us anywhere today.
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@booboo said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
- Vaa'i my MOTM.
Really? He was quite heavily involved but made a shedload of errors. I am mainly thinking, I hope to hell that Brodie's shoulder is OK or otherwise they've got Barrett or Tuipolotou on a plane.
Christie and Sotutu the best on show for me.
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I think in these games we have to focus on structure and keeping it in the forwards. We know we are going to win but Dmac and Mounga trying to dance through a bunch of forwards is pathetic. Throwing it wide and getting stuffed behind the gain line was woeful. We need to learn to graft in the forwards and earn the gain line first. As Mariner said our international game suffers due to Super Rugby style. The coaches failed.
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It has occurred to me that we are too fucking arrogant for our own good.
Teams fan across the field and tackle our unthreatening ball runners
Do we play close to the ruck and try to drag them in? Do we fuck. Fuck.you, we play with width. We're the All Blacks.
Someone goes against the plan and attacks the fringes, lo and behold...
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@mariner4life said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
Teams fan across the field and tackle our unthreatening ball runners
Weber/Christie, Mo'unga, Reece, DMac.
Too many skippy, little men in the backs - and with Bridge, Ennor and Tupaea - not really any blockbusting runners for them to play off.
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I have to say the set piece and forwards in general this year has been a real highlight. Plumtree is clearly doing a good job. Apart from lock we have genuine competition in every position which is fantastic. The hookers scored 4 tries, scrum let Finlay score and Ofa setup another. Shows just how woeful the backs were today.
I never played in the backs, so I don't know what goes on out there but from my couch the backs just seem a little disjointed and lacks cohesion and fluidity. Perhaps it shows just how important Smith is to the AB's backline.
One of the worst performances I have seen in a long time with turnovers and penalties conceded absolutely dire. Flush the dunny and move on.
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@booboo said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@jc said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
Ref got that one wrong.
Which one?
Think it was a breakdown penalty. But TBF by that stage he was hardly doing anything right.
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@bones said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
Ok haven't read the thread and only 70 minutes in. Three things.
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How is it that everyone in the world can see Ennor isn't an international centre's arsehole, apart from Robertson and Foster?
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How is it that everyone in the world can see Bridge isn't an international winger's arsehole, apart from Robertson and Foster?
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Who the fuck is Dixon? Probably the worst ref performance at test level in decades.
Serious question - Has Robertson actually said Ennor is an international centre's arsehole and Bridge is an international winger's arsehole (or words to that effect)?
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I wasted 2 hrs of sleep this morning watching this. The list of players who didn't make a mistake or error would be very short. Outside of Coles, no one enhanced their chances of starting against Ireland.
Worst performed on the field was a toss-up between Ennor and Dickson.
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Just got back from a great weekend. Saw the thread and the highlights. Can't be bothered watching but I'm entirely unsurprised that certain players were shit.
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@chris-b said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
@booboo said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
- Vaa'i my MOTM.
Really? He was quite heavily involved but made a shedload of errors. I am mainly thinking, I hope to hell that Brodie's shoulder is OK or otherwise they've got Barrett or Tuipolotou on a plane.
Christie and Sotutu the best on show for me.
Reading the thread seems I'm swimming against the tide.
Bit of a fan so perhaps had my rose tinted glasses on.
Either that, or you're all wrong and just a bunch of haterz.
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@bovidae said in Italy vs All Blacks 2021 NH Tour:
I wasted 2 hrs of sleep this morning watching this. The list of players who didn't make a mistake or error would be very short. Outside of Coles, no one enhanced their chances of starting against Ireland.
Worst performed on the field was a toss-up between Ennor and Dickson.
Some one told me off for saying I wasn't staying up to 2am to watch Italy. I'm feeling vindicated, they're a team that ABs always look shit against cos we always play a B team with no combinations and fuck all experience. Shit games every time, just another flush the dunny.
I'm going to watch it now, with a Sunday arvo beer, just got back from the beach.
