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@Mokey said in Super Rugby News:
@MN5 said in Super Rugby News:
@pukunui said in Super Rugby News:
Ffs. The biggest problem with super rugby isn't that there are a couple of shit teams. It's the stupid conference system and fucked up finals format where teams don't play the same opposition yet are put into a rankings table as if they do, then come finals time a team can have less points than others but gets a home final.
The new comp will be just as much of a joke. What is the point of over half the teams making the finals?
If you have to have conferences then keep them totally seperate and then have a knock out comp with the top 2 from each conference for the champions cup.I fully expect more shit teams to be added and formats to change in another two years.
It wasn't broke when it was Super 12. Why did the fisheads ( great description btw Norm Hewitt ) feel the need to fix it? I do understand expansion and adding a couple of teams but the convoluted and confusing nature of the competition means it has alienated a shitload of fans which is typified by attendances at games.
Yep. When each team played all others once and then the top four went through to semis, was easy. It seems ludicrous that teams can get through playing no NZ teams at all, and the comp now goes for so bloody long I think people get bored.
I get bored before it even starts and I used to watch it pretty religiously.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby News:
MN5 bored by modern rugby in shock revelation.
Yep. More to my life than growing rats tails and watching rugby first thing in the morning bro.
But I'm not the only one as the hordes of people choosing the couch over flat warm shit beer and stodgy overpriced food will attest.
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@Bones said in Super Rugby News:
MN5 bored by modern rugby in shock revelation.
Anything after 1999 5N?
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby News:
@Bones said in Super Rugby News:
MN5 bored by modern rugby in shock revelation.
Anything after 1999 5N?
- They lost a game in 1999.
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby News:
@Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
Hilarious:
It seems they need reminding about their behaviour over the years. Of course, you can join our competition ARU, as a thank you for voting for us to host the 2011 RWC.
I can imagine the conversation, " here , we've poured you a big warm cup of go fuck yourselves. Drink up , there's plenty more where that came from ".
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according to the news, Aus are still hopeful they can get a trans- Ta$man comp going...maybe a 2nd tier comp like the old CANZ Series would work...
Aus are in a dark place right now, little to no bargaining power...also heard the ARU had pumped $30 mill into Super rugby since the expansion foresaking grass roots.
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I don't know what the reasoning behind the expansion of Aus teams was, whether it was greed or just plain arrogance, but it was massively flawed. They never had the player numbers or feeder systems in place to support five Super-level teams.
The only way you have strong Super rugby, is by having strong club rugby, then strong provincial rugby. It doesn't matter how much cash you pump into Super, if it is built on a house of cards, the threat of collapse was always just a puff of wind away.
NZ rugby is strong because it is built on rock solid feeder systems with strong community support. Again, another issue with Aussie rugby. You can't just say, hey state, this is your team YOU WILL LOVE AND SUPPORT THEM. The public will quite rightly say 'who are these guys? What are their credentials? What connection between me and them is there' - eg same club, same town, same school, same Uni, whatever. No connection = superficial support, at best. And they won't stand by you in bad times. It's a lot harder to hate on someone you think could be a mate. But a glossed up show pony who drifts in, plays, then is whisked away? Easiest thing in the world.
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Barrett free to play after red card
Hurricanes and New Zealand fly-half Beauden Barrett is free to play after a hearing looked into his red card against the Waratahs. A SANZAAR Judicial Committee Hearing has found Barrett of the Hurricanes guilty of contravening Law 10.2(a) Intentionally Offending after he received two Yellow Cards for deliberate knockdowns and was subsequently issued with a Red Card during a Super Rugby match at the weekend. No further sanction has been imposed on the player. Barrett received two yellow cards in which he is alleged to have contravened Law 10.4(a) Intentionally Offending during the match between the Hurricanes v Waratahs at Westpac Stadium, Wellington on April 7. The SANZAAR Judicial Hearing held via video conference on Monday, April 10 was heard by Adam Casselden SC (Chairman), Mike Mika and De Wet Barry. In his finding, the Judicial Committee Chairman Adam Casselden SC ruled the following: “The Judicial Committee conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles, and additional evidence from the player and submissions from his legal representative, Aaron Lloyd. “With respect to sanction the Judicial Committee ruled, after considering a number of factors, including the Player’s exemplary disciplinary record, that the Player’s ordering off merited no further sanction. “The player is therefore free to play and will serve no suspension”
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@Chris-B. said in Super Rugby News:
@taniwharugby Should have been an opportunity to give a few guys a week off from training and what not to completely freshen up. I'd imagine there will be several objectives in the Sunwolves' game - reintegrating the injured, resting a few who've had heavy workloads, maybe giving a few debutants a chance - and winning with a bonus point.
Don't forget that one Razor!
Ran into a few of them at the local pub on the west coast this weekend. They'd all been great given a few days off training.
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The Force are not going quietly and have brought in the lawyers.
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If the reports are true, giving a bunch of cash to the owners of the Rebels may just be the best idea.
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Alan Jones made a valid point this morning...the ARU has allowed SANZAAR to make them ditch a team, while retaining the Sunwolves...Aus have the ability to veto this as well apparently.
I don't think there is any doubt Aus need to cull one team, but what happens from now going forward will be interesting.
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@taniwharugby all reports i have read say that the ARU actually want to cull a team, it's their decision, they simply can't afford the 5.
They aren't being pushed by SANZAAR, the NZRU aren't bullying them, the need to cut their costs, and that means one team needs to go. Of course the narrative on social media is very different.
The fact it's a decision made by the ARU will make it even more messy if the Force (or the Rebels) and the players union decide to get militant.
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@mariner4life oh I agree, was just an interesting point by Jones, who obviously was looking inward...despite calling for heads last week as well.
Puts them in a tough place, they need more teams, but simply cannot sustain them.