NZ v Australia Test #1
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="558332" data-time="1455254316"><p>cant you review that?<br><br>
Surely it would only be revenge if Marsh was clearly not out, but given out...?</p></blockquote>
We can't review a no ball call.<br><br>
Umpires everywhere around the world go upstairs when a wicket is taken and it is a close call on the no ball. But for some reason today Illingworth inexplicably decided fuck the technology I'm gonna make this call on my own.<br><br>
Incomptent.<br><br>
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<p>Yeah thats what I was asking<strong> if</strong> you can review it, but I guess who would call it form the BC;s, the bowler knows they are right on it and only needs to be MM in it</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="558330" data-time="1455254114"><p>There's Australias revenge for the Marsh fiasco. Absolute BULLSHIT and so hard on a bloke who deserves success.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Don't blame the ump - blame the bloody OB director for not getting the replay up quick enough :fishing:</p>
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<p>Smith would have lost his shit if we had a repeat of footgate.</p> -
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<p>Smith would have lost his shit if we had a repeat of footgate.</p>
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<p>repeat? This was a foot issue too! :)</p> -
<p>clinging.....</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;">For the third straight Basin Reserve Test, Brendon McCullum lost the toss. For the third straight time New Zealand were sent in on a pitch that was expected to offer the fast men some assistance. For the third straight time, they were knocked over inside 60 overs. If that scenario seems like it should favour Australia, it is worth noting that in neither of the previous two instances did New Zealand go on to lose the Test; they </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/749779.html'>won one</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;"> and </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667653.html'>drew the other</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;">.</span></p> -
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<p>clinging.....</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;">For the third straight Basin Reserve Test, Brendon McCullum lost the toss. For the third straight time New Zealand were sent in on a pitch that was expected to offer the fast men some assistance. For the third straight time, they were knocked over inside 60 overs. If that scenario seems like it should favour Australia, it is worth noting that in neither of the previous two instances did New Zealand go on to lose the Test; they </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/749779.html'>won one</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;"> and </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667653.html'>drew the other</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:georgia;font-size:16px;">.</span></p>
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<p>Here:</p>
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<p><img src="http://www.lombard.com.au/www/746/files/2807.jpg" alt="2807.jpg"></p>
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<p>Not the right kind of straws, but you get the idea ;)</p>
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<p>Tomorrow morning is pivotal. Could rattle through a soft Aussie middle order with friendly conditions and be back in with a small deficit, or even a lead. Take a leaf from Hazlewood and Siddle - top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off, top of off</p> -
Just remove the no ball call from the ump. They can't actually watch a no ball line and adjudicate on events at the other end all that easily, and you end up with a disgraceful call that could change a test match. Let the on field ump make a ruling (but not make no ball judgements) and then check all decisions for no ball afterwards, it only you takes a few seconds and get it f'ing right! The match should last 5 days, the fans will wait!<br><br>
It was a dickhead call and the days of a batsman having a chance at a free swing when it was called no ball are long gone. That was clean bowled. The ball from a quick is pretty much there before a batsman hears the no ball call. Ridiculous.<br><br>
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<p>I played a game once in the sub continent, morning start. Opening bowler, never bowls no balls, first ball of the game gets called for a noey</p>
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<p>I was captain so walked over to the ump to try to apply a bit of pressure and ask where he overstepped.</p>
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<p>There was a perfect spiked imprint of his whole foot inches behind the line. Ump duly goes through the charade of showing where he "overstepped"</p>
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<p>total lie</p>
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<p>Conclusion: No one knows what goes through the minds of these fluffybunnys</p>
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<p>Had to laugh at the wags caught on the microphones when Latham was being referred and snicko was showing - "that could have come from anywhere" :)</p> -
<p>By the way, at the top levels, the notion (as Snowy said) of the batsman hearing the no ball call and being able to react and change his shot is a myth</p>
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<p>Hard enough to do with spinners, such is the expectation and concentration required to bat</p>
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<p>liked the way Craig brushed it off in the presser after:</p>
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);">"We didn't see it till we came off," offspinner Mark Craig said.</p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);">"There was obviously going to be a little bit of a disappointment [about that] but again, like I said just before, you can't do much about it now so we'll just look forward to tomorrow."</p>
<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);">Craig's line was that "once his arm goes out there's not much you can do about it" and he stuck to it doggedly, during his press conference at the close of play.</p>
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-size:14px;">With successful and dominating teams like Man U, ABs, Auckland rugby back in the day, Aus cricket, the perception that they get the rub of the green a lot is hard to refute, true or not</span></p> -
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<p style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);"><span style="font-size:14px;">With successful and dominating teams like Man U, ABs, Auckland rugby back in the day, Aus cricket, the perception that they get the rub of the green a lot is hard to refute, true or not</span></p>
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<p>Im not sure if there is any factual evidence , but in most sports , opposition supporters swear by it , </p>
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<p>I personally think there is a connection quite often with successful teams being able to push the boundaries of the law better than the rest , some will call it cheating </p> -
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Gotta love Steve Smith.<br><br>
Even though the Aussies have proven their superiority in cricket today they don't win many admirers for sportsmanship.</p></blockquote>
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There's Australias revenge for the Marsh fiasco. Absolute BULLSHIT and so hard on a bloke who deserves success.</p></blockquote>
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It's so much worse then the Marsh fiasco because in this instance the correct decision has not been made, and in a tight test where runs are at a premium it has cost us dearly.</p></blockquote>
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cant you review that?<br><br>
Surely it would only be revenge if Marsh was clearly not out, but given out...?</p></blockquote>
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Aussies probably feel it's some sort of karma. But as has been pointed out the wrong decision was made. Unlike Monday.<br><br>
It could have been reviewed i reckon. But who of the nzers would be looking at the front foot to risk wasting s review.<br><br>
Suggest in a situation where a wicket goes down off a no ball it shoul autoatically be reviewed by the third ump. Failure in process imo.<br><br>
English umpires are the best in the world apparently. How the fuck he thought that was a no ball defies belief.<br><br>
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Yeah with no replays, the player on field will have had no idea it was a poor call.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="558412" data-time="1455308140"><p>
Because cheating fucking dirty fucking AUSSIE fucking Australians, that's how!</p></blockquote>
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Well that's to be expected though. Did he sook again like the other night?<br><br>
Back to the no ball and the concept of being able to change your shot. Won't comment on the ability to do so in the reaction time. But if i was going to change my shot on a call of "no ball" am not sure I'd change it to a leave...