All Blacks vs Springboks I
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@smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
3 Barretts starting.
Imagine if it hadn't already happened this season, it might be slightly more exciting 😬
I think it has happened quite a few times but I still go, wow, I remember when it was a bit weird to have two Whetton ABs..
Do Reiko and Akira have a brother ? I hope not cos he’d be feeling all sorts of stink about not playing too.
You mean like the shorter Hemsworth bro actor (Westworld) that nobody ever remembers?!
Reminds me of the classic response to Mark Waugh sledge:"What are you doing out here? You're too s**t to play for England!"
Which got smashed for six with: "Maybe so, but at least I'm the best player in my family".
Worse though, is that there was a third Waugh who only played provincially.
I think there was also another Waugh who didn’t make it that far.
Mark actually scored more international hundreds than Steve, lots of people forget that.
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@kiwiinmelb back when the pack might weigh in around 850kg...now, most top international packs are over 900kg
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kiwiinmelb back when the pack might weigh in around 850kg...now, most top international packs are over 900kg
yep . but my point was more around how the media hyped them up to be so big and scary , yet they werent bigger at all
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Another fascinating Nick Bishop piece today https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/09/24/coachs-corner-issue-27-who-is-really-the-number-one-team-in-the-world/
"The Springboks have lost the most own-ball rucks (6.7 per cent), and have the slowest average ruck speed at 4.1 seconds per breakdown – compared to New Zealand’s 3.9 per cent loss rate and 2.8 average ruck speed.
They have made only six clean breaks and eight offloads in four games, compared to 35 and 40 by the All Blacks ... The combination of poor ruck stats, and the low ratio of offloads attempted suggests that they don’t dare to shift the ball through the hands too often, for fear of losing it to the most lethal counter-attacking side on the planet."
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@kiwiinmelb thats always been the case though, perception vs reality.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Can't wait to see how that loose forward trio works together against a bigger Springbok pack.
What?
We're NZ. Bokke, Poms, Lions have bigger forward packs by definition.
Ad an aside, has anyone got size, height, weight stats for us so I don't have to look up myself?
I can remember fairly soon after the 03 wc , we had a series at home against England,
All the talk was how we would go against the BIG English pack ,
When I looked up the stats we were slightly heavier man for man except Kevvie .
Yep. Same for the 05 Lions
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kiwiinmelb back when the pack might weigh in around 850kg...now, most top international packs are over 900kg
yep . but my point was more around how the media hyped them up to be so big and scary , yet they werent bigger at all
Black is slimming
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@l_n_p they got effectively counter-rucked out wide quite often in those wallaby tests.
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@mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.
Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of
cheating
how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with. -
@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.
Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of
cheating how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.most fun position on the field
sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.
Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of
cheating how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.most fun position on the field
sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move
Prop?
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.
Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of
cheating how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.most fun position on the field
sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move
Prop?
lol considering how i'm built that's pretty funny
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Interesting little snippet - last night they had Will Jordan on The Project doing a puff piece. But, they asked him if he was the fastest player in the ABs and if not, who is. The gist of his response was:
To be honest, I don't really know. We haven't put it to the test. Might have to do that. Of course, Rieko's got himself at the top of the tree and Braydon Ennor is also pretty quick.
Interesting to see that Ennor is the third man he put in the mix.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Interesting little snippet - last night they had Will Jordan on The Project doing a puff piece. But, they asked him if he was the fastest player in the ABs and if not, who is. The gist of his response was:
To be honest, I don't really know. We haven't put it to the test. Might have to do that. Of course, Rieko's got himself at the top of the tree and Braydon Ennor is also pretty quick.
Interesting to see that Ennor is the third man he put in the mix.
Looking up his Athletic Record he placed 2nd in the 100m Auckland greatest schools Comp in 2015 recording a time of 11.13 which is pretty quick .For a 19 year old
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Ennor seems a bit like the Toeava for this generation of players in the fact that people keep talking up his potential and he keeps getting selected but the average punter is a bit confused why.
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@chris-b I always think when Rieko gets a clean intercept and is being chased, he runs at 90% and is foxing his speed (Teddy Thomas chasedown). Not sure why, either likes being "nearly" chased down or is not wasting an ounce of energy.
When he HAS to hit top speed (being caught out of position and nearly skinned by Tom Banks ...) it looks like he still has his afterburners.
BB not mentioned?
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