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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @kiwiinmelb back when the pack might weigh in around 850kg...now, most top international packs are over 900kg

    yep . but my point was more around how the media hyped them up to be so big and scary , yet they werent bigger at all

    Black is slimming

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    @l_n_p they got effectively counter-rucked out wide quite often in those wallaby tests.

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    @mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.

    Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of cheating 😉 how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.

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    @l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.

    Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of cheating 😉 how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.

    most fun position on the field

    sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.

    Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of cheating 😉 how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.

    most fun position on the field

    sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move

    Prop?

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    @machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @mariner4life 1.3 seconds faster speed by the AB's - feels huge on the (in)ability to reset a defensive line by the opposition.

    Makes me fully appreciate the finer points of cheating 😉 how a top class seven / backrower is able to buy his side 0.5 - 1 seconds in the tackle ... (1) target the ball in the tackle (2) fall marginally on the other side (3) live on the edge as you roll away and (4) adjust all this to what the referee will let you get away with.

    most fun position on the field

    sucks when you get too slow to play it and you have to move

    Prop?

    lol considering how i'm built that's pretty funny

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    Interesting little snippet - last night they had Will Jordan on The Project doing a puff piece. But, they asked him if he was the fastest player in the ABs and if not, who is. The gist of his response was:

    To be honest, I don't really know. We haven't put it to the test. Might have to do that. Of course, Rieko's got himself at the top of the tree and Braydon Ennor is also pretty quick.

    Interesting to see that Ennor is the third man he put in the mix.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    Interesting to see that Ennor is the third man he put in the mix.

    As long as he isn't holding a ball eh?

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    @bovidae "I built that road - but, do they call me Braydon the Road-builder....?" 🙂

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    Interesting little snippet - last night they had Will Jordan on The Project doing a puff piece. But, they asked him if he was the fastest player in the ABs and if not, who is. The gist of his response was:

    To be honest, I don't really know. We haven't put it to the test. Might have to do that. Of course, Rieko's got himself at the top of the tree and Braydon Ennor is also pretty quick.

    Interesting to see that Ennor is the third man he put in the mix.

    Looking up his Athletic Record he placed 2nd in the 100m Auckland greatest schools Comp in 2015 recording a time of 11.13 which is pretty quick .For a 19 year old

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    Ennor seems a bit like the Toeava for this generation of players in the fact that people keep talking up his potential and he keeps getting selected but the average punter is a bit confused why.

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    @chris That's Ennor presumably.

    Google threw up this for Crusaders' backs.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300204816/super-rugby-josh-mckay-tipped-to-challenge-will-jordans-speed-record

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    @chris-b I always think when Rieko gets a clean intercept and is being chased, he runs at 90% and is foxing his speed (Teddy Thomas chasedown). Not sure why, either likes being "nearly" chased down or is not wasting an ounce of energy.

    When he HAS to hit top speed (being caught out of position and nearly skinned by Tom Banks ...) it looks like he still has his afterburners.

    BB not mentioned?

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    @l_n_p No - just that brief response.

    I'd think Reece, Bridge and Beaudy would be the other guys keen to line up on the start line. Beaudy's hit 30 now, though - so he's probably not quite as quick as he was five years ago.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @chris That's Ennor presumably.

    Google threw up this for Crusaders' backs.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300204816/super-rugby-josh-mckay-tipped-to-challenge-will-jordans-speed-record

    Game speed a bit different than top end speed over 100 m.
    Game speed is explosiveness over short distances to medium distances.

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    @chris-b said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @l_n_p No - just that brief response.

    I'd think Reece, Bridge and Beaudy would be the other guys keen to line up on the start line. Beaudy's hit 30 now, though - so he's probably not quite as quick as he was five years ago.

    BB has dropped his speed a bit it shows a little bit.

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    The 2013 game from Jo'burg was on Sky earlier in the week. Beauden was lightning fast back then (e.g., his try, catching le Roux from behind). We'll ignore his front-on tackling. 😉

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    @bovidae That try in the RWC final as well. Runs away from Ben Smith and the Wallaby 14. And poor old Pocock! 🙂

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    The game against the Argies was the freest I've seen Beauden run for a while, was a real threat with ball in hand. I really like the way we used him in that game, just maximised his strengths, hope we see more of that against the Boks.

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    @l_n_p said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:

    @chris-b I always think when Rieko gets a clean intercept and is being chased, he runs at 90% and is foxing his speed (Teddy Thomas chasedown). Not sure why, either likes being "nearly" chased down or is not wasting an ounce of energy.

    When he HAS to hit top speed (being caught out of position and nearly skinned by Tom Banks ...) it looks like he still has his afterburners.

    BB not mentioned?

    Keeping a gear in reserve in case he needs it? It's hard to evade at top speed as you have no burst into a step. Only freaks like Cully could step and swerve at top speed without losing momentum.

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