All Blacks vs Springboks I
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark seriously, George Bridge showed wheels in that game? I honestly just don't recall seeing that. Agree with the rest, Akira didn't have a great game but 2/3 of the loosies didn't...
No, but he has wheels.
Akira didn't have a great game? Ok, I'll give you that, if anonymity interspersed with handling clangers is simply not a great game.
I love how you twist and insert words mate. I'd said in an earlier post of two botched catches, one may have been more difficult than it looked but the other was inexcusable. But he actually did have dominant tackles in that game if you bothered looking..
Edit: Bridge may have wheels, but they'd be training ones. The only time he has shown a clean pair of heels is when he goes straight down in contact. This year. Possibly still injured. But wheels? I guess as far as the Boks are concerned, sure. Meals on Wheels.
What did I twist, or insert? Did I mis-quote you or something? You might need to explain what you're insinuating here, because I've only made my own observations. Making up shit like that only serves to distract from the debate.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark get a grip. Two posts on diff threads of excessive hyperbole on our so far POTY after a poor match.
Wow, seven likes from the Akira Ioane brigade.
For the record, I'm hopeful he can make up for that effort this weekend. If he does, he has that 6 jumper for life. If not, I will wait with bated breath to see how many of you are willing to accept he might not be up to it.
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@shark said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark get a grip. Two posts on diff threads of excessive hyperbole on our so far POTY after a poor match.
Wow, seven likes from the Akira Ioane brigade.
For the record, I'm hopeful he can make up for that effort this weekend. If he does, he has that 6 jumper for life. If not, I will wait with bated breath to see how many of you are willing to accept he might not be up to it.
While I don't think Saturday Nights game will decide either way if he is the future, after last weeks performance there were a lot of people saying that the bully was put in his place and was made to sit in the corner.
Maybe he will always be prefaced with 'Flat track....'
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@shark said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark get a grip. Two posts on diff threads of excessive hyperbole on our so far POTY after a poor match.
Wow, seven likes from the Akira Ioane brigade.
For the record, I'm hopeful he can make up for that effort this weekend. If he does, he has that 6 jumper for life. If not, I will wait with bated breath to see how many of you are willing to accept he might not be up to it.
Cool. I'm in the 'Brigade'. Do we get badges?
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@hooroo I think there were always comments at Super that he used to go missing against the better teams (Crusaders) but he was better this year.
TBF I think the occasion possibly got the better of a number of players, the history, first time facing our old foe, thier tactics.
I expect several players performances will ratchet up this weekend after a 'disappointing' win.
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@shark said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@majorrage said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@shark get a grip. Two posts on diff threads of excessive hyperbole on our so far POTY after a poor match.
Wow, seven likes from the Akira Ioane brigade.
For the record, I'm hopeful he can make up for that effort this weekend. If he does, he has that 6 jumper for life. If not, I will wait with bated breath to see how many of you are willing to accept he might not be up to it.
Can’t speak on behalf of others but I have complete agreement with you on above.
I personally thought calling him a fuckwit on one thread then jumping to another to write something equally as derisory poor form so I called you out on it.
He’s played so well this year he’s earned his crap game. Now let’s see if he can redeem.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Might have been his best game in black. He did everything that was asked of him and more, without the brain farts that have plagued him in the past
I'm going to allow myself a farking great portion of smug satisfaction. His class was always there but for whatever reason some were willing to write him off age 19. It just goes to show that players mature, develop and improve. Writing anyone off that young is simply idiotic.
It's particularly ironic that of the 2 players who were written off as "shit" very young, one is now the captain and the other played a blinder and saved the game last week.
He always showed moments of class. But for some reason he never got the ups that others did. Even as early as his cameo in the last Lions series, when he set up the bus only for him to drop it cold, seemed to go unappreciated. He's been consistently very good in the Canes side for several years. Nice to see him changing opinions, hopefully he has another big game this weekend
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Now do Bridge!
And further to those stats, some of the kicks Jordie was attempting to cover should have been Bridge's but he was having to try and cover anything he thought he could get to as Bridge was an absolute liability.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Now do Bridge!
And further to those stats, some of the kicks Jordie was attempting to cover should have been Bridge's but he was having to try and cover anything he thought he could get to as Bridge was an absolute liability.
The only justification for Bridge being selected is him being a "safe" player, i.e what he lacks in size or pace or skill he makes up with a very low error rate and exceptional option taking. So he has almost zero scope for effing up because not effing up is essentially the only thing he brings to the table. IMHO Jordan was just as bad but he at least offers that incredible speed and a very underrated kicking game.
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@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Can anyone find detail stats for this game? Looking for individual player stats for joining rucks.
I don't know of any site that currently keeps that data (or I'd be all over it). I'm tempted to get a license for Opta or one of the paid services, but my geekiness hits its limit when it impacts on my wine budget.
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
we should have been taking every point we could get
will hopefully also be one of the LEARNINGS we take from this game, take the points when on offer.
Once a team playing as SA did are chasing it, things will open up hugely.
Yup
That's why I don't criticise Ardie for going for a try. We were in attacking position and they were under penalty pressure. IF the gap had opened by a try that would have given us a real advantage in managing the game.
Totally agree - and with the ABs strategy. My only complaint is that while Ardie went for the points when it wasn't working, he should have done it a bit earlier to get us more than 3 points ahead.
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Section 3/ third answer, interesting about Akira
https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/10/01/coachs-corner-issue-28-can-the-wallabies-get-even-bigger/
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
One thing TSF is terribly good at is straw man arguments.
It's entirely fine and proper to point out a player isn't up to Test rugby at that stage of their development. That doesn't rule out maturity and improvement. It certainly doesn't rule out criticism.
Again that's not the argument. It's when a player is ripped to shreds as being shit, not up to it etc. And again let's stop pretending nuance is a thing here.
Nuance is a thing everywhere. If only you can recognise/understand it.
And it's "balderdash".
Boulder Dash was a sweet little computer game. -
@kruse said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
One thing TSF is terribly good at is straw man arguments.
It's entirely fine and proper to point out a player isn't up to Test rugby at that stage of their development. That doesn't rule out maturity and improvement. It certainly doesn't rule out criticism.
Again that's not the argument. It's when a player is ripped to shreds as being shit, not up to it etc. And again let's stop pretending nuance is a thing here.
Nuance is a thing everywhere. If only you can recognise/understand it.
And it's "balderdash".
Boulder Dash was a sweet little computer game.Stick to reviewing shitty Movies. It's a much better use of your time.
