All Blacks vs Pumas II
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@hooroo Interesting but yes that wouldn't surprise me if they went that direction either. I personally think Barrett has more to offer and is still a world class 10. He has far more variation to his kicking game for me and challenges the line better than anyone else in world rugby. He keeps defences guessing all the time with a wider variety of play and yes, I know a lot of people say he kicks too much h at times, but you'll see it more as a long game for him as he does it more early on in games in trying to break down defences before he starts to take the line on and either run altogether or distribute.
Mo'unga is more reliant on broken play and defences losing shape, which brings in his main asset which is taking on the line, but I think Barrett has him covered on everything else. For me, Mo'unga is the perfect 20-25 minute player at test level, similar to Savea. I feel like I've said this many times on here so I won't go into too much detail on Mo'unga's game haha.
If they go with Mo'unga as the starting 10 going forward then so be it, but Barrett does have a lot to offer and I feel is criminally under rated at times.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@tj said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Some really harsh opinions on Blackadder. I thought he had a really strong first 60 and then got a bit sloppy in the last 20, but I'm happy to put that down to being absolutely cooked. I was really impressed with him, great squad option
Except most of his missed tackles were before that, but I grant that most of his penalties were late.
He clearly has an upside and is just a rookie, but when did the standards drop so far that people just shrug off five missed tackles from a blindside flanker against a terrible team?
He’s going to get better, and I said I’d keep him in the squad. Not sure he’s a test six though, might be better at seven and he played a similar game to Ardie out ther, but was less effective making the advantage line.
He is clearly very fit, but has a long way to go before he’ll get ahead of Jacobson, Akira, Dalton, Savea and Cane when he comes back soon.
Squad wise could be the new Masoe.
As long as he’s not the new Todd Blackadder I think we’ll all be happy
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Argie 10 first name: Santiago
Horan: "San Diego"
And in the intro, the AB 2nd 5 was Putaea (my spelling of his mistake).
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There is something I really like about QT, he seems very solid, makes good metres with ball in hand, doesn't push the pass, solid on D. He has the foundations to become a very good player and his partnership with ALB will only continue to improve. I look forward to seeing how the Chiefs go next year as they have some very good players if everyone is fit.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Calling for the end to his career as a couple of people did last night was over the top,
That was me, and I wasn't saying he should never play again. I was saying that stupidly giving a pointless penalty straight after a score to let the opposition back in the game is an act that gives coaches the shits. It is the sort of thing that make coaches say Yeah, Nah - a career ending level of stupidity if that is the norm. He was not under pressure, and neither were the ABs. He's lucky Eddie wasn't coach! He has a great engine but made far too many mistakes.
Commentators and mainstream media seem to rate players on the number of times they mention their name, rather than accuracy and intelligent play. Means those grafters who are core to good test match rugby are often under rated, and those that are here there and everywhere get the points. DMac very much in this mold, normally. Rated high when really he causes his team a load of problems with the flashy shit. Not this game tho.
So yeah Ethan is a late starter at 26 and need sto get his accuracy up to feature more. Hopefully he will.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Calling for the end to his career as a couple of people did last night was over the top,
That was me, and I wasn't saying he should never play again. I was saying that stupidly giving a pointless penalty straight after a score to let the opposition back in the game is an act that gives coaches the shits. It is the sort of thing that make coaches say Yeah, Nah. He's lucky Eddie wasn't coach! He has a great engine but made far too many mistakes.
Commentators and mainstream media seem to rate players on the number of times they mention their name, rather than accuracy and intelligent play. Means those grafters who are core to good test match rugby are often under rated, and those that are here there and everywhere get the points. DMac very much in this mold, normally. Rated high when really he causes his team a load of problems with the flashy shit. Not this game tho.
So yeah Ethan is a late starter at 26 and need sto get his accuracy up to feature more
Seems a reasonable post,I don't disagree with all your points.But Blackadder is a wait and see if he fine tunes his game to grow as a 6.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@bones said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Hell of an effort from Vaa'i to go 80, but the only time I've "seen" him is when he's dotting down. Struggling with if that's a good thing or not.
He's not much of a presence eh.
Can't say I've noticed him carrying much. Seems to be used as support.
Vaa'i was being used as a distributor with those short passes in the midfield. But he did have more carries and run metres than Tuipulotu.
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
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@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
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@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
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Not unusual for a loose forward to get caught out of position on defense in their first season of test rugby. Happened with Papalii a few times, but now he's a gun.
Blackadder had some good impact, but has noticeably missed tackles in his previous outings. Nothing wrong with his technique, rather his positioning. He will likely improve.
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@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@damo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@nzzp said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Pumas II:
Are the ABs number 1 again yet? No one is even close.
Not quite
apparently we are. Sounds like this was a 'home game' for the Argies. It's not great - but there's a fair bit of reporting that we're back to No1.
You'd think this sort of thing would have been clarified by World Rugby or SANZAAAAAAARSE before the game started, eh
I think that would be stupid if true. It's a game played on neutral ground, no matter where it was supposed to be played.
Do we know if last week was considered a home game for us for ratings purposes.
I guess we must have, if this was the same for Argentina. Was a boks home game too, then. Fucking stupid if that's the decision for ranking points
Haha so the Boks play Australia in Australia and World Rugby consider it a home game for the Boks.
I reckon this hasn't been thought through properly. Who cares where the game was originally scheduled to be played 6 months ago
We'll find out on Monday, if we are world 1, then that is what has happened for the rankings If not, WR have at least 2 brain cells to rub together.
