Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?
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@old-samurai-jack said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
Was in awe at what Trapper Loveridge did on the field as a young fella. The second test against the Lions in 1983 (?) where he took control was one of the greatest halfback performances you'll ever see (thanks to The Breakdown for the reminder).
And now, I also think A.Smith is something really special. He is just the complete package who influences the game just like Loveridge did.
The others I saw, Donaldson, Bachop, Marshall, Kelleher (sp?) etc, all had strong points whether passing, running or defense but were not the complete package like Loveridge or Smith.
I never saw Going or Laidlaw- too young
yeah I think i would go Smith first , Loveridge second ,
if it was pissing with rain I might go Marshall , great wet weather half back
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@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT
In the last 500 players selected for the All Blacks (ie players #698 to #1198), how many halfbacks have there been?
Mathematically, there probably should have been 35-40 - but, due to Smith and Marshall's long tenures especially, I'm going to say less than that. 30.
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@chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT
In the last 500 players selected for the All Blacks (ie players #698 to #1198), how many halfbacks have there been?
Mathematically, there probably should have been 35-40 - but, due to Smith and Marshall's long tenures especially, I'm going to say less than that. 30.
I wonder how many years that is? More games in recent years should mean more new ABs
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@chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT
In the last 500 players selected for the All Blacks (ie players #698 to #1198), how many halfbacks have there been?
Mathematically, there probably should have been 35-40 - but, due to Smith and Marshall's long tenures especially, I'm going to say less than that. 30.
Closer on your first assumption. It’s 38.
I thought low 30s before doing the research, given this dates back to selections first made in the early 70s when there were tour games and starting XVs that played 80 minutes.
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QUIZ ALERT #2
Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.
I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:
1 - Finlay Christie
18 - Byron Kelleher
29 - David Kirk -
@act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".
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@bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".
As a former halfback that was quietly spoken, respectful to the ref and opponent, I do not know what you are talking about.
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@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader Given how vocal and annoying some halfbacks can be, I thought that the correct answer was "too many".
As a former halfback that was quietly spoken, respectful to the ref and opponent, I do not know what you are talking about.
gentleman, i present to you, a unicorn
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@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT #2
Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.
I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:
1 - Finlay Christie
18 - Byron Kelleher
29 - David Kirkfuck off
i just googled when #698 got capped. And the player i thought was 501 was actually 1001. There were 80-odd before i was even born. And 250-odd before i can even remember watching rugby
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@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT #2
Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.
I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:
1 - Finlay Christie
I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.
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@bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT #2
Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.
I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:
1 - Finlay Christie
I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.
In order of last picked first, Christie is number 1
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@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
QUIZ ALERT #2
Name the 38 halfbacks? If you can pick where they are in the order then an extra virtual chocolate fish for you.
I’ll get things started with a couple of hints:
1 - Finlay Christie
I'm thinking that Tahuriorangi was before him and Drummond and Weber before that.
In order of last picked first, Christie is number 1
That is what I am meaning going from most recent to the next most recent, etc.
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@bovidae correct
1 - Finlay Christie
2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
3 - Mitchell Drummond
4 - Brad Weber -
@act-crusader Bruce Deans, Steve Scott, Justin Marshall, Andy Ellis, Jon Preston, Lyn Davis, Mitch Drummond.
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@nepia said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@chris-b Now Kahn did reach peak performance when he moved to the Magpies, however he was already playing for Samoa by then so can’t really be included in the best AB 9 discussion.
He's in the coulda, woulda, shoulda discussion - a bit like Robbie and Alan Hewson.
Injustices that are not forgotten.
(Actually, Kahn's AB prospects were largely farked by Robbie preferring Andy Ellis - something I agreed with at the time).
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@chris-b said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader Bruce Deans, Steve Scott, Justin Marshall, Andy Ellis, Jon Preston, Lyn Davis, Mitch Drummond.
Only have to find 8 more and it’s a quality XV of halfbacks 😉
3 - Mitch Drummond
11 - Andy Ellis
21 - Justin Marshall
24 - Jon Preston
26 - Bruce Deans
31 - Steve Scott
35 - Lyn Davis -
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
1 - Finlay Christie
2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
3 - Mitchell Drummond
4 - Brad WeberPulu
I'll leave the rest.
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@bovidae said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
@act-crusader said in Discussion of AB 9s. Best ever All Blacks Half Back?:
1 - Finlay Christie
2 - Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi
3 - Mitchell Drummond
4 - Brad WeberPulu
I'll leave the rest.
5 - Augustine Pulu
