All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug
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@kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Mounga clearly had a good game.
He kicked well and got a good intercept try. But in the first half he didn’t get us around the field, defended badly and again was hidden on the wing on defence.
Will bite us on the bum one day.
When we took him off it almost did bite us in the Bum, our attack ceased to exist.
And we let in a shit load of tries.Richie is far and away the best option. BB is not close at the moment.
Agree. Our depth in a few positions is very, very shallow.
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@Victor-Meldrew it's almost certainly the lack of confidence in the game plan. We have the talent, and when we hit our straps we are very difficult to contain, but overall we are disjointed. That all comes back to the coaching team.
I almost lost my shit when Jordie went to the wing again. Just so fucking dumb. He either starts at 15 or he's not in the 23, I just don't understand what they are doing with him; his performances on the wing are worse than Bridge and sooooo far below what you'd expect of an AB winger.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Mounga clearly had a good game.
He kicked well and got a good intercept try. But in the first half he didn’t get us around the field, defended badly and again was hidden on the wing on defence.
Will bite us on the bum one day.
When we took him off it almost did bite us in the Bum, our attack ceased to exist.
Too many subs contributed to that, we started losing scrums and conceding lots of penalties.
Bad coaching we had mometuem
RM, Akira were playing their best minutes ,and we take them off and give mometuem to the Aussies take, no vision by the coaching staff. -
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@Victor-Meldrew it's almost certainly the lack of confidence in the game plan. We have the talent, and when we hit our straps we are very difficult to contain, but overall we are disjointed. That all comes back to the coaching team.
I almost lost my shit when Jordie went to the wing again. Just so fucking dumb. He either starts at 15 or he's not in the 23, I just don't understand what they are doing with him; his performances on the wing are worse than Bridge and sooooo far below what you'd expect of an AB winger.
Considering Reece had played well,The standard went right down.
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@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Mounga clearly had a good game.
He kicked well and got a good intercept try. But in the first half he didn’t get us around the field, defended badly and again was hidden on the wing on defence.
Will bite us on the bum one day.
When we took him off it almost did bite us in the Bum, our attack ceased to exist.
Too many subs contributed to that, we started losing scrums and conceding lots of penalties.
Bad coaching we had mometuem
RM, Akira were playing their best minutes ,and we take them off and give mometuem to the Aussies take, no vision by the coaching staff.Would have made more sense to take off Savea for Jacobson.
Have to get BB in form, otherwise DMac will be ten if RM gets injured. Things can get worse.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kirwan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Mounga clearly had a good game.
He kicked well and got a good intercept try. But in the first half he didn’t get us around the field, defended badly and again was hidden on the wing on defence.
Will bite us on the bum one day.
When we took him off it almost did bite us in the Bum, our attack ceased to exist.
Too many subs contributed to that, we started losing scrums and conceding lots of penalties.
Bad coaching we had mometuem
RM, Akira were playing their best minutes ,and we take them off and give mometuem to the Aussies take, no vision by the coaching staff.Would have made more sense to take off Savea for Jacobson.
Have to get BB in form, otherwise DMac will be ten if RM gets injured. Things can get worse.
It will under these fuckwits
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@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky why because we dont play retarded 10 man boxkickathon shit like South Africa and the old enemy?
I think both teams have some great talent coming through and we will go well at the next RWC. Both teams packs to me seem like they can genuinely muscle up but also marry that with a bit of backline play.
Fuck it. Straya will never win at Eden Park but we put some good play together and if not for a loose 20 minutes and uncharacteristic goalkicking would've been right in it.
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions. That final win was incredibly impressive but they’re not the second coming of Christ some people seem to think they are.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky why because we dont play retarded 10 man boxkickathon shit like South Africa and the old enemy?
I think both teams have some great talent coming through and we will go well at the next RWC. Both teams packs to me seem like they can genuinely muscle up but also marry that with a bit of backline play.
Fuck it. Straya will never win at Eden Park but we put some good play together and if not for a loose 20 minutes and uncharacteristic goalkicking would've been right in it.
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions. That final win was incredibly impressive but they’re not the second coming of Christ some people seem to think they are.
We beat them in the group stages for starters
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@derpus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@sparky why because we dont play retarded 10 man boxkickathon shit like South Africa and the old enemy?
I think both teams have some great talent coming through and we will go well at the next RWC. Both teams packs to me seem like they can genuinely muscle up but also marry that with a bit of backline play.
Fuck it. Straya will never win at Eden Park but we put some good play together and if not for a loose 20 minutes and uncharacteristic goalkicking would've been right in it.
Good post. Fuck me if the Boks haven’t been built up to mythical proportions. That final win was incredibly impressive but they’re not the second coming of Christ some people seem to think they are.
We beat them in the group stages for starters
Convincingly as well.
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@chris we also have a decent bench with guys like Uelese and Tupou coming on. Its alright to credit us with some shit.
I thought RM had a blinder going forward and a nightmare in defense. Tough one that.
Havili seems kinda average. One of the only positions in my view where the Aussie option clearly the better player (but needs to tidy up security in contact).
Numerous AB infringements in the 22 and no yellow with an all kiwi reffing team. Shock.
Edit: Sevu with a blinder supporting the AB selection policies of late.
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@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Rennie hit the nail on the head.
What was it he said?
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Be interesting to see what changes are made to the bench.
Coles (if fit), Lomax, S Barrett and Will Jordan would be mine
I would have Jordie or Will Jordan to start.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Rennie hit the nail on the head.
What was it he said?
He's "bloody angry"
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
@hooroo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:
Rennie hit the nail on the head.
What was it he said?
Mentioned the number of AB penalties without a YC. Not wrong.
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Ah, the glorious fighting loss, that sets us up for a hiding next week.
You guys are pulling your dick hairs out with frustration about Foster but ultimately you'll smack six shades of shit out of us next week. Yeah sure, Foster might be an idiot, but the cohesion issues won't be as prominent.
I'm generally happy with the Wallabies' performance. Goal kicking could have been better but I only count 4 points from missed conversions in that - as I've said many times before, you can't really count penalties because they change the course of a game radically. Sliding doors as @Bones said.
Williams warned the ABs in the second half, then did nothing about it. Sure the try probably rubbed out the yellow in the first instance, and that's fairly common. But he clearly asked for a change in behaviour and didn't get it for subsequent penalties. Besides that, and the call against Tupou at scrum time, I thought he was lightly biased toward the Wallabies early then evened out later into competence.
The 18-9 penalty count will concern both of Foster's brain cells.
Our bench definitely outplayed the ABs. I think that was in part due to the disruption to the lineup pre-match. We executed better as the match went on, after a fairly disastrous lineout performance in the first 40. The guys coming on included Gordon and To'omua who are solid players, and McReight added a bit of speed and breakdown nous that Wilson (who missed the vital mark on Mo'unga in the no-try) doesn't have.
Scrum much improved with Phillip there - I think LSL maybe needs a bench shift next match. Swain at LH lock and Philip TH.
The complaints about the ABs only playing well for 20ish minutes are valid, but then they've been roughly that team for a few years now. Most times, it is enough to win. Tonight proved no different.
It comes down to little moments from the Wobs: in the shadows of halftime, having just scored a nice try, we advance ahead of the kicker. The culprit? Hooper.
Rookie backline did alright, all things considered. Banks the most capped with 14. Kellaway had a great game and starkly illustrated what Wright does not have: patience and temperament for Test Rugby.
To me, 8 points is about right in terms of the basic errors we made. The AB bench will be better for the run. If Coles and SBarret come back it'll probably look different.
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