Super Rugby 2022
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@bayimports Oh goody, Hopefully the ball tracking will become sort of GPS devise as well. I am sick of looking for balls that disappear over banks and down into the long weeds or get stuck up in trees where it takes ages to locate them in both instances. Even have had to go back on Sunday's sometimes to try and find them! There are plenty of grounds in Wellington that it would be very useful to have those capabilities.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
Oh. Joy.
Isn't it wonderful news? I assume it makes it easier for the ball boys to find them? FFS!
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@dan54 said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
Oh. Joy.
Isn't it wonderful news? I assume it makes it easier for the ball boys to find them? FFS!
Hopefully they can build an alert system in so Will fucking Jordan knows when the ball is travelling his way.
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If the can get the calculation accurate it would be great for instant assessment of FPs. The TMO just checks for a red or green light. Even better would be that the TMO keeps their mouth completely shut unless a red light appears.
Could also remove my bugbear of every dropped ball being called a knock on unless it goes well back although the flipside could be a very small tolerance for 'straight down'. I guess that a small tolerance could be built into the calc. -
@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
If the can get the calculation accurate it would be great for instant assessment of FPs. The TMO just checks for a red or green light. Even better would be that the TMO keeps their mouth completely shut unless a red light appears.
Could also remove my bugbear of every dropped ball being called a knock on unless it goes well back although the flipside could be a very small tolerance for 'straight down'. I guess that a small tolerance could be built into the calc.awesome, lets just rule rugby on minute details. sounds super. great product. love it.
i have a stop start game to follow. its called the NFL, and its awesome. And infinitely better at it than rugby.
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GPS isn't accurate enough for things like if the ball is out or not, the units in their jerseys are only accurate to +/-9m (probably less in the stadium with limited sky view)...which is fine for working out how far or fast theyve run over a length of time...but not for high accuracy stuff
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@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
If the can get the calculation accurate it would be great for instant assessment of FPs. The TMO just checks for a red or green light. Even better would be that the TMO keeps their mouth completely shut unless a red light appears.
Could also remove my bugbear of every dropped ball being called a knock on unless it goes well back although the flipside could be a very small tolerance for 'straight down'. I guess that a small tolerance could be built into the calc.Horrifies me to think that rugby would go to that.
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Canes/MP game off,
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300537063/hurricanes-super-rugby-pacific-match-against-moana-pasifika-postponed,
And who have MP got next week? The Clan who have got covid in their squad!! F*** me! -
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@derpus said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial doesn't sound like a move in the right direction, i reckon. Over-regulation is strangling the game atm.
I see it as removing the TMO bullshit conversations.
The knock on examples are probably a big stretch. More than happy to leave that on field but if there was a live calculation that indicated to the TMO about a forward pass think of the pain that wouldtake away. No TMO asking to go back and spent 5 minutes trying to make a decision from a dubious camera angle. The ref would know if a FP had been made immediately before awarding a try etc. -
@crucial you reckon the algorithm will know the difference between thrown forward and drifted forward?
And i reckon, if it does, you will see a huge amount of successful rugby attacks brought back. I've seen a few tries already this season where it is almost certain there was at least one forward pass.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial you reckon the algorithm will know the difference between thrown forward and drifted forward?
And i reckon, if it does, you will see a huge amount of successful rugby attacks brought back. I've seen a few tries already this season where it is almost certain there was at least one forward pass.
If the tracking is accurate enough, it will easily be able to tell if it left the hands backwards. IMO any tech should only be used, outside of old school red card play, if the ref asks. If the ref doesn;t see forward pass, cos it is close enough. Then leave it. Ref could say check that pass, TMO goes it’s red/green, game carries on. If it comes up red, TMO STFU unless asked. Only if the TMO sees dirty play should they intervene
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@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial you reckon the algorithm will know the difference between thrown forward and drifted forward?
And i reckon, if it does, you will see a huge amount of successful rugby attacks brought back. I've seen a few tries already this season where it is almost certain there was at least one forward pass.
If the tracking is accurate enough, it will easily be able to tell if it left the hands backwards. IMO any tech should only be used, outside of old school red card play, if the ref asks. If the ref doesn;t see forward pass, cos it is close enough. Then leave it. Ref could say check that pass, TMO goes it’s red/green, game carries on. If it comes up red, TMO STFU unless asked. Only if the TMO sees dirty play should they intervene
lol yeah fairies and rainbows
that toothpaste is out of the tube my friend. We'll get far far more intervention before we get less. Add in players whinging in the refs ear. And TMOs going "above and beyond" to find other things while reviewing stuff, and we are fast heading for the ref being secondary to the great eye in the sky.
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@mariner4life I love unicorns too.
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@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial you reckon the algorithm will know the difference between thrown forward and drifted forward?
And i reckon, if it does, you will see a huge amount of successful rugby attacks brought back. I've seen a few tries already this season where it is almost certain there was at least one forward pass.
If the tracking is accurate enough, it will easily be able to tell if it left the hands backwards. IMO any tech should only be used, outside of old school red card play, if the ref asks. If the ref doesn;t see forward pass, cos it is close enough. Then leave it. Ref could say check that pass, TMO goes it’s red/green, game carries on. If it comes up red, TMO STFU unless asked. Only if the TMO sees dirty play should they intervene
lol yeah fairies and rainbows
that toothpaste is out of the tube my friend. We'll get far far more intervention before we get less. Add in players whinging in the refs ear. And TMOs going "above and beyond" to find other things while reviewing stuff, and we are fast heading for the ref being secondary to the great eye in the sky.
I think you are missing the point. Any calculation would happen in the background. Hopefully we would never see it. Build in a tolerance for flat passes ( in a way a bit like cricket DRS tolerance for ball tracking) and it makes it 'clear and obvious'.
Play goes on as normal. No going back and checking. Removes captains asking questions and whinging players. If the system hasn't generated a red light in the play then there is nothing to see. If it has then the ref is informed just as an AR would.
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@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@mariner4life said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial you reckon the algorithm will know the difference between thrown forward and drifted forward?
And i reckon, if it does, you will see a huge amount of successful rugby attacks brought back. I've seen a few tries already this season where it is almost certain there was at least one forward pass.
If the tracking is accurate enough, it will easily be able to tell if it left the hands backwards. IMO any tech should only be used, outside of old school red card play, if the ref asks. If the ref doesn;t see forward pass, cos it is close enough. Then leave it. Ref could say check that pass, TMO goes it’s red/green, game carries on. If it comes up red, TMO STFU unless asked. Only if the TMO sees dirty play should they intervene
lol yeah fairies and rainbows
that toothpaste is out of the tube my friend. We'll get far far more intervention before we get less. Add in players whinging in the refs ear. And TMOs going "above and beyond" to find other things while reviewing stuff, and we are fast heading for the ref being secondary to the great eye in the sky.
I think you are missing the point. Any calculation would happen in the background. Hopefully we would never see it. Build in a tolerance for flat passes ( in a way a bit like cricket DRS tolerance for ball tracking) and it makes it 'clear and obvious'.
Play goes on as normal. No going back and checking. Removes captains asking questions and whinging players. If the system hasn't generated a red light in the play then there is nothing to see. If it has then the ref is informed just as an AR would.
Wayne Barnes could have done with it.and i think you are living in dream land
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@machpants if it is passed forward the ball should explode so we then dont carry on multiple phases after the pass only for it to be called back.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants if it is passed forward the ball should explode so we then dont carry on multiple phases after the pass only for it to be called back.
now THAT'S entertainment
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants if it is passed forward the ball should explode so we then dont carry on multiple phases after the pass only for it to be called back.
We’re onto a winner! Imagine all the scrums exploding when the ball goes in at 45 degrees!
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants if it is passed forward the ball should explode so we then dont carry on multiple phases after the pass only for it to be called back.
It should also explode for defensive chips from inside the 22 and goal line grubbers when there is a 3 man overlap.
Edit: RIP Beauden Barrett
