Super Rugby 2022
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I'm starting to think that that Rugbypass article was written with the knowledge/expectation of Jordie playing at 12 for the Canes, this week, so they can publish another article with the "we told you so, this is the solution" as a follow-up article, to "prove" how good they are in their analysis. Cynical thought? Maybe. But some of them are not just lurking here; I think some of them are posting here, too. Too many similarities between posts and articles.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
But some of them are not just lurking here; I think some of them are posting here, too. Too many similarities between posts and articles.
I'd expect them to be lurking here sometimes. Sure there's some dumb posts occasionally but the quality of feedback is exponentially better than twitter, reddit, article comments, talkback radio etc
Plus borrowing an idea or two saves them some work
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
I'm starting to think that that Rugbypass article was written with the knowledge/expectation of Jordie playing at 12 for the Canes, this week, so they can publish another article with the "we told you so, this is the solution" as a follow-up article, to "prove" how good they are in their analysis. Cynical thought? Maybe. But some of them are not just lurking here; I think some of them are posting here, too. Too many similarities between posts and articles.
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@machpants No, not a conspiracy theory, if that's what you mean with your gif. Just reading posts and then seeing very similar articles, sometimes using the same wording. Unless they "copy, paste" from the Fern, of course.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants No, not a conspiracy theory, if that's what you mean with your gif. Just reading posts and then seeing very similar articles, sometimes using the same wording. Unless they "copy, paste" from the Fern, of course.
Just joshing, Mrs Vyvyan
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
I'm starting to think that that Rugbypass article was written with the knowledge/expectation of Jordie playing at 12 for the Canes, this week, so they can publish another article with the "we told you so, this is the solution" as a follow-up article, to "prove" how good they are in their analysis. Cynical thought? Maybe. But some of them are not just lurking here; I think some of them are posting here, too. Too many similarities between posts and articles.
That they're stealing my complaints and turning them into articles is not evidence I'm a "sports journalist".
I'd have faith any of them had a clue if they wrote something insightful before I read it here.
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@bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
Blues prop Nepo Laulala has been suspended for three weeks after his red card for a dangerous cleanout in their win over Moana Pasifika on Tuesday.
As expected.
How the fuck does he get time off? What a shit system
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@kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:
@bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
Blues prop Nepo Laulala has been suspended for three weeks after his red card for a dangerous cleanout in their win over Moana Pasifika on Tuesday.
As expected.
And fully deserved.
fully deserved the full 6 or 8 weeks!
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@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:
@bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
Blues prop Nepo Laulala has been suspended for three weeks after his red card for a dangerous cleanout in their win over Moana Pasifika on Tuesday.
As expected.
And fully deserved.
fully deserved the full 6 or 8 weeks!
Nope.
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@kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:
@machpants said in Super Rugby 2022:
@kirwan said in Super Rugby 2022:
@bovidae said in Super Rugby 2022:
Blues prop Nepo Laulala has been suspended for three weeks after his red card for a dangerous cleanout in their win over Moana Pasifika on Tuesday.
As expected.
And fully deserved.
fully deserved the full 6 or 8 weeks!
Nope.
This wasn’t a head clash, or someone dipping in the tackle. He lined up a player in a ruck, with his shoulder and his arm tucked back like he was Owen Farrell. There is no mitigation, he has previous (re and yellow last few years), and don’t give me the shit of getting time of for remorse/not picking nose during the hearing/etc. That was a grub shot, not poor technique or highly dynamic situation, and deserves the full sanction IMO
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My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.
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@billy-tell my interest is still there, but the format sucks...hopefully with life returning to some form of normalcy we should also see a better draw.
As much of a blues fan as anyone could be, and a fan of the introduction of MP someone might be, seeing these teams play twice in a week that isn't a finals series...
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@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.
See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.
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@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.
See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.
How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.
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@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.
See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.
How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.
But when we do get a series it can be three in a row. Super Rugby may have eg Blues v Chiefs twice in a two month period with a possibility that they may meet in finals.
I think we have got too used to hit and run games or 'series' of two in a row at most. Tours of a series of one-off tests.
Over the last couple of decades we have ended up in a place where coaches seem to 'move on' to the next challenge quickly and although they have reviews, the don't get to test the adjustments or improvements that they identify.
Those adjustments, if proven, can set teams and leaders up with the tools to change during games.
As an example Chiefs v Crusaders. Crusaders in quick succession. Crusaders completely changed up their tactics and threw everything at the breakdown in the second match. Those players now have that proven tool in their arsenal to apply should they find themselves in a game one situation again where they had tried to absorb and hold out.
I just find it interesting and find value in repeated games. Not ad nauseum of course but I dont see the issue with the structure of NZ teams playing each other a couple of times. -
@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
@crucial said in Super Rugby 2022:
@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
My interest in super rugby has flagged fast. Too repetitive. There is only so many times I can watch the same teams face each other.
See, I don't get that. Does the same apply to test series? Nope. The interest is in the changes between matches the counter tactics. Maybe a team has upped their game since the last match and is ready to make amends.
How often do Ireland do a test series in nz? How often do NZ super rugby sides meet? Just not comparable imo.
But when we do get a series it can be three in a row. Super Rugby may have eg Blues v Chiefs twice in a two month period with a possibility that they may meet in finals.
I think we have got too used to hit and run games or 'series' of two in a row at most. Tours of a series of one-off tests.
Over the last couple of decades we have ended up in a place where coaches seem to 'move on' to the next challenge quickly and although they have reviews, the don't get to test the adjustments or improvements that they identify.
Those adjustments, if proven, can set teams and leaders up with the tools to change during games.
As an example Chiefs v Crusaders. Crusaders in quick succession. Crusaders completely changed up their tactics and threw everything at the breakdown in the second match. Those players now have that proven tool in their arsenal to apply should they find themselves in a game one situation again where they had tried to absorb and hold out.
I just find it interesting and find value in repeated games. Not ad nauseum of course but I dont see the issue with the structure of NZ teams playing each other a couple of times.I suppose it's that NZ sides tend to play fairly similar styles, so you end up watching 3 games which are somewhat the same. Whereas when you had the SA sides (when they were good back in the day), it added some variety. I suppose it's due to covid, but I wish the NZ sides were playing Aussie ones this weekend and not each other. Again.
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@billy-tell said in Super Rugby 2022:
I suppose it's due to covid, but I wish the NZ sides were playing Aussie ones this weekend and not each other. Again.
The original draw was a better competition. Here's a link to it: Original 2022 SR draw
There was more variety in the games being played each weekend, instead of front loading the derby matches. The kiwi v kiwi matches would've been bigger events because they were spaced out etc
Covid destroyed that. The organisers of the comp deserve some credit for how flexible they have been. I was pessimistic when the season started and assumed we wouldn't see as much rugby as we have
