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    @cgrant said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Moorby is a better fullback than Love. The latter should be used mainly as a first five IMO.

    Yeah, Love suits 1st-five better than 15... Moorby looks a very good player.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    9 & 10 are your playmakers, so very important, so lets select a 9/10 combo & stick with it.

    Whoever that ten ends up being in the long run, I hope we end up persisting with Cam Roigard at halfback aswell. He seems to be a smart footballer and has a sound kicking game which will take pressure off whoever that first five may be.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @Nepia lol when have I said I preffered Morgan to Love?

    He's not wrong though, the Canes are going to need to make a decision at some stage on who their no1 general is. Right now Ruben Love is injured so it's a good opportunity for Morgan to showcase his talent.

    Who knows, if they end up shifting Jordie into 12, then Ruben's long term position could be fullback.

    I'd have Love as an impact player, suits the super-sub role better than a snail paced JGB.

    Morgan
    Rayasi
    PUJ
    Sullivan
    Moorby/Goosen
    Barrett

    22-Love, 23-Proctor.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2022:

    I'd have Love as an impact player, suits the super-sub role better than a snail paced JGB.

    JGB played well off the bench in the last match with some very good option taking... we need our best 10 to play most of the match, as mentioned reckon that's Love.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    9 & 10 are your playmakers, so very important, so lets select a 9/10 combo & stick with it.

    Whoever that ten ends up being in the long run, I hope we end up persisting with Cam Roigard at halfback aswell. He seems to be a smart footballer and has a sound kicking game which will take pressure off whoever that first five may be.

    Yeah, he does look a good 9 & his option taking is pretty good.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Hasn’t been the case this season for the Crusaders never played the same 23 2 games in a row.
    What with injuries,Suspensions,AB rest weeks
    AB’s have had heaps of rest in the Crusaders enviroment this season.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

    Fair point, but don't think they've got the balance right, reckon it's part of the reason why the ABs are not performing that well - coaches could reduce the ABs work load at practice knowing they'll be on the bench in the next game... also on the other side of it every point is crucial, so if your best players are not available in matches could really hurt your chances of making the playoffs or securing home advantage.

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    @Chris they have, this season.

    The last few years though, Whitelock and Taylor in particular have played virtually the whole campaign

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

    I wonder what sports science would have to say about mental refreshment and everyone else's daily 9-5 grind, with 4 weeks of holidays per year?

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    @Chris-B I have an answer to that, but it may trigger a response that belongs in the politics thread and I don't want that here. 😉

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    @Chris-B said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

    I wonder what sports science would have to say about mental refreshment and everyone else's daily 9-5 grind, with 4 weeks of holidays per year?

    That's the point though if it's a grind, it's not performing at your peak. People who get stale stop performing at the highest level. Still very good and solid, but missing the magic.

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    You won't hear it from the Canes, but fortunately Jacob Devery now posted this on instagram himself, so we know why he's not playing.

    97efff47-c7d9-458b-904f-0b792715ff15-image.png

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    @Stargazer It is the Hurricanes after all so maybe they have not yet noticed their injury replacement player is himself injured.

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    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2022:

    You won't hear it from the Canes, but fortunately Jacob Devery now posted this on instagram himself, so we know why he's not playing.

    97efff47-c7d9-458b-904f-0b792715ff15-image.png

    It's not rocket science keeping the fans updated, would be cool if they had more regular updates.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @Chris they have, this season.

    The last few years though, Whitelock and Taylor in particular have played virtually the whole campaign

    I agree thats was true of previous seasons.

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    @Canes4life Yep, especially - as in Devery's case - it's a serious injury. The poor bloke will be out for the SR season and - depending on how bad it is - maybe the NPC season. They don't even mention it. It doesn't matter whether a player is first choice or 4th/5th (or 8th for that matter). He's been part of the squad.

    I wish him a quick recovery (but it doesn't look good, unfortunately).

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    @Chris said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @Chris they have, this season.

    The last few years though, Whitelock and Taylor in particular have played virtually the whole campaign

    I agree thats was true of previous seasons.

    I can hold a grudge for years.

    Hell, I'm still pissed at the ref for the Bob Deans try in 1905. We wuz robbed

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