Hurricanes 2022
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@bobily2 said in Hurricanes 2022:
@tim said in Hurricanes 2022:
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
Walker-Leawere
A few years ago, I thought he would have played for the All Blacks by now.
I remember in a U20 game he chased down a winger. Someone with his size and speed should've kicked on. I'd say he is the best lock in NZ rugby over the ball - he gets a ridiculous number of turnovers.
Are his turnovers from getting over the ball or holding players up off the ground? I notice the latter way more.
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@dice said in Hurricanes 2022:
@bobily2 said in Hurricanes 2022:
@tim said in Hurricanes 2022:
@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
Walker-Leawere
A few years ago, I thought he would have played for the All Blacks by now.
I remember in a U20 game he chased down a winger. Someone with his size and speed should've kicked on. I'd say he is the best lock in NZ rugby over the ball - he gets a ridiculous number of turnovers.
Are his turnovers from getting over the ball or holding players up off the ground? I notice the latter way more.
That's a good question. I think I've seen a fair bit of both - though I don't really have any specific instances to back that up.
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Sat 19th Feb {Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin} - 7.05pm
CANES : Jordie Barrett, Julian Savea, Billy Proctor, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Wes Goosen, Ruben Love, Jamie Booth, Ardie Savea (c), Du'Plessis Kirifi, Devan Flanders, Justin Sangster, James Blackwell, Tyrel Lomax, Asafo Aumua, Pouri Rakete-Stones.
Reserves : Jacob Devery, Xavier Numia, Ben May, Reed Prinsep, Brayden Iose, Richard Judd, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Bailyn Sullivan.CRUSADERS : Will Jordan, George Bridge, Braydon Ennor, David Havili, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Fergus Burke, Bryn Hall, Cullen Grace, Tom Christie, Pablo Matera, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett (c), Oli Jager, Brodie McAlister, Joe Moody.
Reserves : Shilo Klein, George Bower, Tamaiti Williams, Quinten Strange, Mitch Dunshea, Mitch Drummond, Simon Hickey, Sevu Reece.Odds : Crusaders $1.30 - Canes $3.30
Referee : Brendon Pickerill
Assistant Ref 1 : James Doleman
Assistant Ref 2 : Fraser Hannon
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@canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:
@tim injuries and not being selected by the incompetent Holland hasn't helped
Might be injury related, but I wonder if fitness has been an issue for Walker-Leawere? It might just be his body shape, but he didn't look like he was in great nick the last couple of years.
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He missed the entire Bunnings NPC and this states that he is out for the entire season if you can be bothered to scroll down to near the end of the article
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We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time. -
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@tim said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness
Yeah, this is a real worry for us.
May make a difference,When you add a few players didn't play NPC either.
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@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
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@sparky said in Hurricanes 2022:
Big name players will stop us being totally useless, but set piece is very poor.
Yeah, very fair point...
The Crusaders tend to be much better drilled in the set pieces than all the other teams, which must play a big part in them winning all those Super titles... but it's also up to all the other sides to improve a lot more in those areas. -
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
Yep totally agree with your post.Your boys need to improve that set piece .agree about
Burke, he was really good. -
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
Yep totally agree with your post.Your boys need to improve that set piece .agree about
Burke, he was really good.How old is Burke ? ...our 10 Ruben Love is only 21, he's a brilliant running 10, has plenty of gas, but as you've seen he needs to work a lot on his general kicking game to guide the team around the field.
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@nzbloke Fergus Burke is 22.
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@sparky said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke Fergus Burke is 22.
Similar age to Ruben Love, great to see we have some really promising talent coming through.
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
Yep totally agree with your post.Your boys need to improve that set piece .agree about
Burke, he was really good.How old is Burke ? ...our 10 Ruben Love is only 21, he's a brilliant running 10, has plenty of gas, but as you've seen he needs to work a lot on his general kicking game to guide the team around the field.
Burke is 22 the crusaders picked him as a youngster out of school.
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
Yep totally agree with your post.Your boys need to improve that set piece .agree about
Burke, he was really good.How old is Burke ? ...our 10 Ruben Love is only 21, he's a brilliant running 10, has plenty of gas, but as you've seen he needs to work a lot on his general kicking game to guide the team around the field.
Sounds like he could slot straight into the ABs today...
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@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
@chris said in Hurricanes 2022:
@nzbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:
We got back into the match through our flair, then the Crusaders slowed the game down taking complete control in the set pieces, lost count how many bloody tries they scored driving over the line from lineouts inside our 22... our forward play has to be much better than the rubbish we showed tonight.
you blokes showed enough I reckon,I am glad we got you out of the way early at least for the First one.
I have a feeling you might give the Blues a run next week.The Blues are behind the ball with match fitness ( nothing beats match fitness you can train all you like but it doesn't match playing)
Jordie Ardie and Amua will be better for the game time.Yeah, we did some good stuff, but the ongoing problem with our set pieces is a real worry, your team smashed us there, we scored some late tries to make the scoreboard look better, but we'd lost the match well before that... we should have the edge on the Blues with us having played a match, true, you can't simulate match practice.
All the players were going to be a bit rusty in their first game, but thought Ardie was outstanding.
Thought your 10 Burke had a top match, liked that when he was ever inside his 22 he would kick the ball out near halfway so you could go to a lineout & set your defence... when our 10 was inside his 22 he kicked aimlessly downfield allowing your blokes to attack from broken play, from one of those silly kicks your blokes managed to score a try.
Yep totally agree with your post.Your boys need to improve that set piece .agree about
Burke, he was really good.How old is Burke ? ...our 10 Ruben Love is only 21, he's a brilliant running 10, has plenty of gas, but as you've seen he needs to work a lot on his general kicking game to guide the team around the field.
He also needs a bit of work on his defence, he's got good size for a 10 but I saw him get bumped off quite a few times yesterday (same thing happened in the NPC from memory too).
He definitely outplayed Love though. Love I think would suit a bench impact role at this stage with his broken field running.
