All Blacks v Tonga
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@duluth said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The issue is his lack of foot work. An AB winger should be have top quality foot work that puts off defenders. Bridge doesn’t have it but every successful AB winger has had it. Even our wingers that were famous for running over people had great feet.
100% this. It's the lack of footwork which is the big issue which is why he 'dies' at the defensive line so often.
I actually think Ennor a few years ago when he first broke through looked like a potential option at 11 - I thought he looked more suited on the wing. Since then he's been constantly injured and moved to 13.
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@nepia said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@duluth said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Highlanders maybe? Depends on Josh Ioanes form etc
It’s unlikely to happen while he still gets starts at the Crusaders. That will get more difficult when Goodhue and Ennor are fit, unlike most of this year
I think he'd be ahead of Ennor in the Crusaders pecking order? Any Crusaders fans still left on here to give us some expert guidance?
If everyone is fit, who knows with Havili making a good fist of things at 12. Hopefully it will mean Goodhue back to 13 and Ennor on the wing. Can't recall if Ennor mostly played 11 or 14, but I reckon wing is his best position. He is not a quality midfielder at this stage.
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@duluth I agree. He looks like a fullback playing wing and I also would like to see him play more often at Super level but we know that won't happen.
I'm like most on here, can't stand him as a starting winger. He's weak in contact which is a massive part of test rugby. We need at least a battering ram who can break the advantage line in the big tests, and Bridge isn't that man for me.
I would have rather we went with Faianganuku as Clarke's replacement.
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@african-monkey if we went with Leicester we will lamenting his lack of pace and his slowness on the turn around. Sure, he wins the contact most times, but is that enough?
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For the big games I think our best hooe is for one of the two new 12s to demand selection so ALB can be at 13 and Rieko at 11.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@duluth said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Highlanders maybe? Depends on Josh Ioanes form etc
It’s unlikely to happen while he still gets starts at the Crusaders. That will get more difficult when Goodhue and Ennor are fit, unlike most of this year
I think he'd be ahead of Ennor in the Crusaders pecking order? Any Crusaders fans still left on here to give us some expert guidance?
If everyone is fit, who knows with Havili making a good fist of things at 12. Hopefully it will mean Goodhue back to 13 and Ennor on the wing. Can't recall if Ennor mostly played 11 or 14, but I reckon wing is his best position. He is not a quality midfielder at this stage.
Wondering if we may have seen the best of Goodhue and will he struggle to get back to the level after such a long term injury?
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@nevorian said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@nepia said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@duluth said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Highlanders maybe? Depends on Josh Ioanes form etc
It’s unlikely to happen while he still gets starts at the Crusaders. That will get more difficult when Goodhue and Ennor are fit, unlike most of this year
I think he'd be ahead of Ennor in the Crusaders pecking order? Any Crusaders fans still left on here to give us some expert guidance?
If everyone is fit, who knows with Havili making a good fist of things at 12. Hopefully it will mean Goodhue back to 13 and Ennor on the wing. Can't recall if Ennor mostly played 11 or 14, but I reckon wing is his best position. He is not a quality midfielder at this stage.
Wondering if we may have seen the best of Goodhue and will he struggle to get back to the level after such a long term injury?
That's crossed my mind too especially given he is down on pace anyway. Goodhue needs to be error free like he was the first few seasons to be fully effective. The last couple of seasons errors crept into his game a bit which is a shame
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Tonga:
use of defections again...?
"It was a bad day at the office against the best team in the world.”
Has he never heard of the Springboks or England?
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@african-monkey if we went with Leicester we will lamenting his lack of pace and his slowness on the turn around. Sure, he wins the contact most times, but is that enough?
It's more than George offers
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@african-monkey if we went with Leicester we will lamenting his lack of pace and his slowness on the turn around. Sure, he wins the contact most times, but is that enough?
It's more than George offers
and the ABs weren't turning around that often in that game..
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@african-monkey if we went with Leicester we will lamenting his lack of pace and his slowness on the turn around. Sure, he wins the contact most times, but is that enough?
It's more than George offers
and the ABs weren't turning around that often in that game..
I was meaning against the top teams. Happy for him to have a go though, but I don't think he is the answer we are looking for. Also happy to be wrong. For what it's worth, I prefer big Leicester than Bridge for the Saders.
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I dont understand why people are bagging this game as a fixture. Sure the result was never in doubt, and yeah, it wasn't a spectacle for AB supporters. But has anyone asked the Tongan players or fans if they'd prefer not to play? I didn't see any sad fans in the crowd.
I couldn't believe it when I saw a while back that we had only played them 6 times in our history (now 7). That's a disgrace when you think of their contribution to our culture and the game in NZ.
Of course I get the money angle, and of course they'd be "better off" playing a team closer to their ability. But we shouldn't be denying them opportunities like this.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
A firing Caleb Clarke solves the problem doesn’t it?
Certainly does. Let's hope he can put this season behind him.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
A firing Caleb Clarke solves the problem doesn’t it?
Certainly does. Let's hope he can put this
seasonbehind him.Injury, you mean.
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Halfbacks, if I am allowed to include the Maori All Blacks..
my ranking was Hall then Weber then Christie (but many may disagree esp on the last 2)..
I note Hall is 3 years younger than Aaron Smith, so maybe he is a RWC contender?
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@kirwan said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
A firing Caleb Clarke solves the problem doesn’t it?
Certainly does. Let's hope he can put this
seasonbehind him.Injury, you mean.
Thanks Eroni.
